Really?!
I've only noticed the WOV mods banning or suspending someone for violating forum rules, not for posting material which goes against the grain.
Oh, to clarify: I suppose they might ban someone spewing anti-AP screeds if they felt he were trolling, as trolling is a violaton of forum rules; you know, like what happened to you (nuclear option).
Last edited by MisterV; 08-15-2017 at 07:38 PM.
What, Me Worry?
That would make his mother in her late 70's, at least. That age would suggest she might need the help. So maybe kudos to him for being a caregiver.
I would re-think the "living with his mom" as some kind of knock on this particular person, whether he's an AP or not, unless his mom is Cher.
Yeah, but what about the opinion of his peers?
His was a wild ride at the infamous blackjack ball.
He penned: "I won the Grosjean Cup in the past and then got kicked out."
Obviously the host thought he had his blackjack credentials in order; whether he could be labeled "professional AP" is another matter.
AP at one time, seemingly.
Last edited by MisterV; 08-15-2017 at 05:35 PM.
What, Me Worry?
I'm not anti AP and I'm not angry. It's just that "APs" keep telling us how wonderful they are and I wonder why they spend so much time on forums and not at one of Trump's golf clubs? LOL
I remember when I met my AP-friend. He spent two hours telling me about his wonderful advantage plays... then I found out he's living with his mom. And when he actually did play it was 25-cent VP.
Of course there is nothing wrong with 25-cent VP but there's a limit how much your advantage plays are worth at a 25-cent game.
redietz nothing wrong with living with mom if youre an AP. But play at higher levels than 25-cents so you can give mom better care.
Yes, he is an AP. I specifically said "professional" AP. Being an AP is mostly about math and knowledge. Shackleford is very smart mathematically. He figures things out and will throw some money on +EV situation. That makes him an AP. It's easy to be an AP when you have other income or a wife very gainfully employed and don't need your AP money to live.
A professional AP takes another level. It takes discipline and a mental strength to hang in there during the severely bad runs, when your only income is in the red for months at a time. The very mental struggles that zenking is publicly going through is the difference between a true professional AP and someone who want's to be one.
Who are Shackleford's peers?
Other math guys? I am sure he is well thought of among the math geek club. He is very talented mathematically.
Other AP/gambling website owners? Well I know of one Qfit (Norm Wattenberger), who refused to post at WoV for more than 5 years, publicly saying he didn't trust Shackleford. Yeah, he changed his tune, when he needed a favor, but that earlier action and comment should tell his "real" opinion.
edit: but enough about Shackleford. I am not here to re-live my Shackleford drama. I am just saying not all AP's worship Shackford or his site, as Blackhole would have you believe.
Last edited by kewlJ; 08-15-2017 at 05:56 PM.
Sometimes being smart about the math makes you overlook the common sense of a situation.
It's a very small club. There are maybe five successful Infomercial companies. The three biggest are in Southern California. I'm #3 and I try the hardest.
Guthy Renker is #1
Script to Screen is #2
Then comes me.
There were SEVEN other companies that tried to copy my Best Buys Show concept and they all went out of business. I've been doing it for eleven years.
Yep, putting AP's in their place and challenging them is clearly trolling according to the WOV and ass kissers like yourself. Funny how you always seem to make sudden appearances when your AP friends are catching hell. Your comments are almost as strange as redietz's twilight zone comments. Although, you fit more in the full blown jackass bracket.
Take a fn walk you jackass.
At least I know how to play well enough with others not to get thrown off the playground by one of the monitors.
But enough about me.
What, Me Worry?
Frank was never an addict. Calling anyone a gambling addict is a Singerism when he wants to feel superior. Ignore the comment or next he'll mention my ex wives.
When I was in negotiations to be on GWAE, specifically the date I would be on, I made a comment to Bob that on a certain day I would be flying into Reno to meet a friend and we would be heading out to a video keno play that carried a 7% edge and was worth $140 an hour. A couple of days later Bob asked me if Frank could get a seat on the play. I told him that 1) The play wasn't in Nevada 2) there were only two machines. I don't know if Frank would have been playing on his own money or not but they were sure interested in the play.
This post is another perfect example to confirm how much shit your full of. The rest of the post showed how ridiculous and meaningless those quotes were by Axel. Please explain what seemed reasonable about Axel's comments to you after reading the whole post? Or, did you stop reading suddenly after Axel's bullshit quotes?
Also, your comments about Mike S. and your negative opinion about the WOV don't hold any water at all. Those comments expose once again how much of a bullshit artist you actually are. For the longest time you made a complete fool of yourself on the forum GF, begging for Mike S. to let you back, and trying to coax others at WOV to speak on your behalf. Your repetition and whining over, and over again became so annoying at GF, that all the other members even the ones who at first sided with you were begging you to take your skirt off and try to just once behave like a man, take your lumps, move on, and shut the f up. It became obvious what role you play in your relationship with your live in partner.
It's amazing how none of you could realize how foolish and unbelievable you actual appear, and just keep posting trying to justify your stupidity. It's getting to the point where I'm starting to think we should back off, simply because your so obviously f'd up, you could become suicidal over this nonsense. Nobody here would want to read about that happening.
Last edited by blackhole; 08-15-2017 at 10:00 PM.
Blackdumasshole is a no good piece of shit. He adds nothing of value here. Just another ignorant stupid troll like his daddy, larrys.
I didn't know there was really a question there, I thought you were being rhetorical. Do you really expect me to comment on someone's personal financial status and where they are when I don't even know them?
You didnt answer any of my questions from post #426, yet you want to claim I'm the one who hids in his blackhole?
Let's be honest here, I have gone above and beyond what most people would/should have with you. I have been mostly polite and all with you, while you consistently have been very unpolite to me from the day you arrived on the gambling forums. You cant expect me to keep up with and respond to evrything you say.
Last edited by AxelWolf; 08-16-2017 at 12:12 AM.
Notes to Mr. Hole:
1) When you write "fake fallacy" and "alleged claims," these are, at best, redundant. Taken literally, the word "fake" cancels out "fallacy," and "alleged" cancels out the word "claims." I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I don't think this is what you were aiming for.
2) I'm a lover of hyphen-use myself, but "un-proven," "un-regulated," and "prairie-dogs" demonstrate a real devotion.
3) Thanks for your use of expletives. Rob was confused. I told him that you were fluent.
Editor Bob
Last edited by redietz; 08-16-2017 at 04:33 AM.
Redietz, I am baffled as to why all these guys...the anti-AP, AP-deniers are all filled with such HATE.
These guys are well within their right to not believe anyone and everyone on an anonymous message board site. They have the right to live in their own alternative world, believing what they like, denying facts and reality. But why does each and every one of these guys, ranging from the guy that dominated GF's, to Singer here, to Blackhole (whom I have been respectful to), have to sink to the lowest level of humanity with their vile personal attacks and comments? That kind of childish behavior and hatred just disempowers any argument that they might actually have and shows them in the light of the small, bitter people that they are. I actually give Mendelson credit. He managed to express his anti-APism and denial of reality, without sinking to that level.
For the record, I don't have a "live in partner". I am married. The state of Nevada and The United States of America afford me that right, just the same as these homophobic haters. Not that my marriage, relationship or "what role I play" has any bearing on anything being discussed. That is just haters and low life trolls...hating and sinking to the lowest levels possible. Thanks again Axel for bring up my personal situation first chance you got to provide ammunition for these trolls. With Friends like you....
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