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    These three teams will have the same problem for the first years in their new cities: a lack of people in seats.

    In Vegas there just aren't enough people and the Strip casinos would need to have about one fan in half of their total rooms to fill the new stadium.

    In LA college fans will go to the aged arenas but pro football fans won't. Not until the new LA stadium is completed will you see major attendance.

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    The way the NFL is acting right now, I hope people decide to stop going to games.

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    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    The way the NFL is acting right now, I hope people decide to stop going to games.
    I actually agree with that. The games are systematically getting ruined with the political nonsense.

    The owners artificially support their players involved in these antics even though they're all in defiance of the NFL's Game Operating Manual which states that: "All players & coaches must be on the field and be standing during the playing of our national anthem, in respect of our flag and our country". But as soon as they realize reduced revenue, you can bet things will revert back.

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    I agree the NFL needs to put their foot down regarding this anthem nonsense. They have every right to do this. The football field is not a place for protest or pushing political views.

    If the teams don't get control of their players, the situation will continue to get worse.

    Anyway, I don't understand why there are suddenly two teams in LA, after not having any for two decades. LA pretty much forgot about the NFL, and it will take awhile to get people excited about it again. It doesn't help that the Rams are mediocre and the Chargers are awful.

    The Raiders may have a better shot, moving to Vegas, which lacks any kind of major professional sports (NHL doesn't count). Also, they may get attendees from out of the area, who will enjoy the novelty of attending an NFL game in Vegas at a new stadium. They will, however, suffer from the problem of a small market. The entire Vegas area has about a population of 2 million, and I'm not sure that's enough to support an NFL team.
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    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The entire Vegas area has about a population of 2 million, and I'm not sure that's enough to support an NFL team.
    Here's the math:

    There will be 65,000 seats.
    It's estimated that one-half of the seats will be bought by out-of-towners. That's about 32,500.
    There are 148,300 hotel rooms in Las Vegas.

    About 22% of the hotel rooms need at least ONE game-goer in order to fill those 32,500 seats. And if the locals don't show up, you'll need one game-goer in about 44% of the hotel rooms in Vegas to fill the stadium.

    There will only be parking for 16,000 at the stadium itself (actually 2,400 cars and I'm making an allowance for car pooling) which I think is not an optimistic sign for local attendance. That could mean either satellite parking with bus service, or a bigger dependence on out of town game goers.

    Now about the local population: how many are fans? If one-percent then you have about 20,000 seats filled and not the 32,500 expected.
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    The wild cards:

    How many fans of the team opposing the Raiders on game day will use the game as a good "excuse" to schedule a trip to Las Vegas to watch their team play?

    How many tickets will the casinos purchase in order to give them out as comps?

    How many Southern Californians, in town for the weekend anyway, will opt to watch a game?

    Will the home games be blacked out locally on TV, such that a local fan must attend in order to watch a game?
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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    The wild cards: How many fans of the team opposing the Raiders on game day will use the game as a good "excuse" to schedule a trip to Las Vegas to watch their team play?
    This is my thinking too. I think people will time their Vegas vacations for when their team is in town. It's killing two birds with one stone.
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    Unless the Raiders become a contender they'll never get the support they need to succeed in LV. It's a town filled with egos, minorities and low lifes. Relying on visitors to buy tickets is a poor business strategy, even with all the S. Calif. flakes who flock to the town like sheep.

    Mickey---how about it? Care to ever get back to the town that took it all away? Lots of keno machines you know, only you won't be able to make up all those stories any more.

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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post

    Will the home games be blacked out locally on TV, such that a local fan must attend in order to watch a game?
    NFL blackouts have been suspended since 2015 on a year-to-year basis. I think the trend will continue.

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Unless the Raiders become a contender they'll never get the support they need to succeed in LV. It's a town filled with egos, minorities and low lifes. Relying on visitors to buy tickets is a poor business strategy, even with all the S. Calif. flakes who flock to the town like sheep.

    Mickey---how about it? Care to ever get back to the town that took it all away? Lots of keno machines you know, only you won't be able to make up all those stories any more.
    Ten years in Nevada and I never found an exploitable video keno progressive. They just aren't there.
    Challenge to redietz. We bet every NFL regular season game. You make the picks. If you lay the fav I get 2 extra points. If you take the dog I get a 2 point discount. Easy pickings for you.

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    They just WEREN'T there. You have no idea what's in Nevada today and for the past ten years.

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