The Package Revisited

[kewlJ]

This whole redietz 'things' is just so ridiculous and Alan as usual is pretending he isn't part of it with his comments like "I never doubted redietz", but then sneaky Alan, will add something like" there is nothing in the package that proves who he is". That is typical "shyster" Alan that we have all come to know. Alan actually said something to the effect that there was no copy of a driver's license or ID. What world do these people live in?

So let's back up just a bit and see if I got this right. This site, evolved from Alan's phony Best Buy's site, where he endorses different products and services as great value, when in fact the companies he "touting" are paying for that endorsement. Yeah that seems honest. Did I already say "shyster" in this post? So anyway, that site evolved into this vegas casino talk site, a small site with I don't know what, maybe 10 very active members and another 8-10 semi-active members? I think that is a fair characterization.

So lets' say 20 'somewhat' active members, talking gambling and vegas. So out of this 20 members, we have a handful of known AP's. Maybe a couple blackjack guys, 3-4 machine advantage pros, redietz a sportsbetting pro (not AP, because he doesn't like that term or want to be lumped with us AP's ), and a number or recreational gamblers of various levels and games. Fair characterization so far?

Ok so redietz who has been a member here for more than 6 years according to the join date, at some point mentioned something about sportsbetting and was challenged by Singer. So challenged, Redietz describes who he is, apparently a somewhat known sports handicapper of several decades and his history, which of course on this site, in never accepted without copies of bank statements and blood tests. Of course Singer, Alan and others challenge that, accusing redietz of being a fraud, pretending to be this somewhat known handicapper.

Now here's the thing, it is not like this is some sports or sports handicapping site, where anyone would know or be impressed with redietz. I mean if this was a sports handicapping site and someone comes along claiming to be some somewhat known handicapper, that would be one thing, but this is NOT that....this is a small gambling site with a very small membership, and no offense to redietz, but I don't think many (if any) knew or know who sports handicapper redietz is. I didn't. And I suspect redietz wanted it that way. He didn't come here touting anything. He only came here to participate on gambling topics including sports betting, which frankly there is very limited discussion.

So here is the question: Why would someone come here to a small general gambling discussion site, impersonating someone that few, if any on the site know of?? I mean come on....there is not a lot of common sense on this site.

Now, one final prediction: Alan will respond "I never doubted redietz". Save it Alan! You sir are a typical shyster double-talker. You say things like "I never doubted him", but then make snarky little backhanded comments of how there is nothing in the package that proves his identity, which as you always do, is a backhanded way of trying to discredit someone. That is what you are Always about! And you do it sneakily (dishonestly).

So let's put this package thing to bed. I am tired of talking about people's packages. I don't think redietz had some 7 year plan to come to a site with a handful of members and impersonate someone that none of them even knew of. He is who he says he is. A successful sports handicapper who like the rest of us, enjoy discussion our gambling/AP activities. I am glad to have him a member of the site and enjoy his participation.

[coach belly]

This site, evolved from Alan's phony Best Buy's site, where he endorses different products and services as great value, when in fact the companies he "touting" are paying for that endorsement. Yeah that seems honest

That doesn't seem phony or dishonest.

Aren't endorsements paid for by the companies that sell the products and services?

[mickeycrimm]

Rob doesn't give a shit. He's off traveling, Mickey.

LMFAO. Of course he cares, he just found out he was wrong.

I don't know who you are, but you have a total of 8 posts as I write this. What do you mean by "he just found out"?? This has been going on for a couple of years. LOL

Look... and this is for everyone... Rob only believes what Rob wants to believe. I never doubted redietz. I heard from Rob today -- he's enjoying his travels -- but he still maintains the entire thing was fabricated.

I can't do anything about that. You guys will have to fight with Rob. Unfortunately, you can't do it here on the forum because he's banned.

Good luck.

It's not our fault Rob was banned. You banned him twice then unbanned him twice. And you'll remember he came running back as fast as he could both times. So don't tell me he doesn't give a shit. All Rob has to do is put up some evidence, through you, that redietz is an imposter of Bob Dietz and we'll lobby to get him back on the site. But you and I know that will never happen because Rob will never find any evidence like that. That's why he "doesn't give a shit." He knows the effort will be futile. So do you. Why don't you take a hike with Rob?

[kewlJ]

That doesn't seem phony or dishonest.

Aren't endorsements paid for by the companies that sell the products and services?

Well, coach belly, we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. It seems pretty dishonest to me.

Alan has thrown his credentials at us...remember the post on his lifetime as a journalist, with all the awards and honors? A journalist is someone who seeks the truth. A journalist is about objectivity and integrity. So when a 'journalist' tells you that ABC carpet cleaner is the best carpet cleaner money can buy, he is putting his journalist credibility on the line. It SHOULD be that in his fair and honest opinion, ABC carpet cleaner is the best product, NOT that ABC carpet cleaner is paying him to lie.

And once you cross that line, then you lose all credibility. Why should anyone believe anything you say again. I mean how do we know that Alan really finds Rob Singer to be credible (no one else does). How do we know that Mr. Argentino, hasn't paid Alan for that endorsement (for whatever reason)??? Frankly at this point, why would anyone think anything Alan says is the truth? umm...18 y. o.'s in a row.

[coach belly]

So when a 'journalist' tells you that ABC carpet cleaner is the best carpet cleaner money can buy, he is putting his journalist credibility on the line. It SHOULD be that in his fair and honest opinion, ABC carpet cleaner is the best product, NOT that ABC carpet cleaner is paying him to lie.

You don't have any basis to claim that Alan has been paid to lie.

I suspect Alan will confirm that his fair and honest opinions are represented in his infomercials, if he wants to dignify your ridiculous accusations with a response.

I watched a couple, I didn't see much in the way of opinion or anything deceptive or dishonest at all...the clips were primarily information about the products.

Spokespeople are paid for endorsements, it doesn't logically follow that they are lying about the products because they are being paid.

[Dankyone]

Rob doesn't give a shit. He's off traveling, Mickey.

LMFAO. Of course he cares, he just found out he was wrong.

I don't know who you are, but you have a total of 8 posts as I write this. What do you mean by "he just found out"?? This has been going on for a couple of years. LOL

Look... and this is for everyone... Rob only believes what Rob wants to believe. I never doubted redietz. I heard from Rob today -- he's enjoying his travels -- but he still maintains the entire thing was fabricated.

I can't do anything about that. You guys will have to fight with Rob. Unfortunately, you can't do it here on the forum because he's banned.

Good luck.

I, however, do know who you are. You have been cordial every time we have met. I know very well that “packagegate” has been going on for a very long time because I have lurked here since you owned the forum.

What I mean is, your assistant at the office that you are never going to go to again told you what was in the package, and you just recently told rob. Since you, Alan—his trusted friend—told him, he’s suddenly “traveling” which apparently means he no longer cares to comment on this. Curious since he wasted hundreds of posts and countless hours commenting on it. That’s why I’m LMFAO.

I have absolutely no interest in arguing with rob, who is battier than a belfry and easily the rudest internet persona I have ever encountered. I’m only posting here since he is permanently banned.

[Biloxi Bill]

This site, evolved from Alan's phony Best Buy's site, where he endorses different products and services as great value, when in fact the companies he "touting" are paying for that endorsement. Yeah that seems honest

That doesn't seem phony or dishonest.

Aren't endorsements paid for by the companies that sell the products and services?

And here`s Betty, solidifying his well earned reputation as the Town Cunt

[redietz]

LMFAO. Of course he cares, he just found out he was wrong.

I don't know who you are, but you have a total of 8 posts as I write this. What do you mean by "he just found out"?? This has been going on for a couple of years. LOL

Look... and this is for everyone... Rob only believes what Rob wants to believe. I never doubted redietz. I heard from Rob today -- he's enjoying his travels -- but he still maintains the entire thing was fabricated.

I can't do anything about that. You guys will have to fight with Rob. Unfortunately, you can't do it here on the forum because he's banned.

Good luck.

It's not our fault Rob was banned. You banned him twice then unbanned him twice. And you'll remember he came running back as fast as he could both times. So don't tell me he doesn't give a shit. All Rob has to do is put up some evidence, through you, that redietz is an imposter of Bob Dietz and we'll lobby to get him back on the site. But you and I know that will never happen because Rob will never find any evidence like that. That's why he "doesn't give a shit." He knows the effort will be futile. So do you. Why don't you take a hike with Rob?

Quick update: I'll be in Las Vegas next week with a couple of clients and further editions of "the package," but sans my National Gambling Conference article. If anyone is interested, please leave a message at the Orleans December 17-20th, and I can hand one off or leave it at the bell desk for pick-up. All of my favorite people -- coach, OneHit, Mr. Argentino, Mr. Mendelson -- are of course invited to do so, although Mr. Mendelson will have to reimburse me for the postage on the last one. And my less than favorite people -- mickey, KJ, eddie, and so on, you can also have one if you ask nicely.

[OneHitWonder]

All of my favorite people -- coach, OneHit, Mr. Argentino, Mr. Mendelson -- are of course invited to do so, although Mr. Mendelson will have to reimburse me for the postage on the last one. And my less than favorite people -- mickey, KJ, eddie, and so on, you can also have one if you ask nicely.

Nah. Thanks. I'm gonna hold out for the Rosetta Stone. It could happen. Alan got 18 straight yo's here. Or maybe another of those sideways X-ray glasses/binoculars kewlj is wearing.

noun. 1. a stone slab, found in 1799 near Rosetta, bearing parallel inscriptions in Greek, Egyptian hieroglyphic, and demotic characters, making possible the decipherment of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics. 2. a clue, breakthrough, or discovery that provides crucial knowledge for the solving of a puzzle or problem.

Note the parallel processing aspect, and crucial knowledge.

Anything to undo those terrible yo's. And help to sort the rest of this crap out.

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"And the Lord said unto John, 'Come forth, and you will receive eternal life,' but John came fifth and won a toaster."

[MisterV]

Nah. Thanks. I'm gonna hold out for the Rosetta Stone. It could happen. Alan got 18 straight yo's here.

To each their own (stone, that is):

OHW: Rosetta

Alan: Blarney