I don't think jatki sounds like a troll. I appreciate the questions.

And this question sticks in my mind. So Arc, let me ask again this question: if you lose playing today, and you lose playing tomorrow on a "positive expectation game" what makes you think you will end up turning a profit over the long run?

And conversely, if someone wins on a negative expectation game today, and they win on a negative expectation game tomorrow, why do they have to lose money over the long run?

Now, I just finished writing an article on this site about craps (see Dice Games, Craps, Card Craps at http://www.alanbestbuys.com/id139.html ) where I call craps a negative expectation game that according to the math players should lose. But I do point out that if you get lucky, you can win. And the strategy you play, coupled with the luck factor, is what can make you win the negative expectation game of craps.

Now, why is it impossible to use luck and a certain strategy (whatever it might be) to erase the "house edge" of 0.8% in a game such as "bonus poker" or the "house edge" of 0.5% in "jacks or better"? Why must you fail playing those games?