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[kewlJ]

Adios to you, too. Go back to posting photos of casinos.

It's always the same thing.....Alan is right and EVERYONE else in the world is wrong. Every topic, every argument it's the same. EVERYTHING is that stupid 18 y.o.'s in a row thing. He saw it. IMPOSSIBLE! But he saw it and everyone else that knows it is impossible is wrong.

[MisterV]

Alan is just a degenerative gambler, completely ignorant of winning play, advantage play. Hell, he doesn't even realize how much he is embarrassing himself.

Obviously he could give a shit about emabarrasing himself; for him it's all about ATTENTION, be it positive or negative, it's all the same to him.

He's been on the receiving end of well-deserved critcism for DECADES that I've seen on various gambling boards, and it rolls off him like rain off a duck.

He is what he is.

[mickeycrimm]

Mickey, Mickey, Mickey. EV is one thing. Winning is one thing. Losing is one thing. To tell me you had positive EV but you lost $8800 and you had the best day is a far reach. Now, I wasn't born yesterday, and I don't drink. So you're going to have a hard time --- a very hard time --- feeding me this kind of BS. Adios to you, too. Go back to posting photos of casinos.

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[Bill Yung]

Some people run through the finish line, and some let the dew build up on them. And then there are the hangers-on.

[kewlJ]

All you have to do is look at Alan's issues with Mike Shackleford. A number of people, myself included have had issues with Mike Shackleford. But nearly all are about the way he has run his site or the politics of his site and the AP community. There is almost nobody that challenges Mike's mathematical expertise. Nobody that is except Alan....and his buddy in denial...Singer.

Alan just has a problem with the mathematics of advantage play. I actually think Alan has a problem with math. He doesn't understand it, doesn't want to understand it and when it is proven to him, refuses to accept it. So he challenges me and anyone else that is working off proven mathematical facts even though we have all had proven success doing so (actual money won), while he has losing year after losing year. (His own admission).

He thinks he is challenging me, in his continuing effort to discredit me, but h is challenging proven mathematics.

I mean who is the fool here? This is like the coach of the 0-16 Cleveland Browns telling Bill Belichick how to coach.

[coach belly]

No, you go answer a call of nature whether you actually have to answer one or not.

How can you get into a high positive count heads-up situation without playing negative or marginal counts?

You play the neutral count - the high negative count is abandoned with a bathroom break.

And when you return from the break, the heads-up table you abandoned is vacant.

You sit down to play heads-up. How do you play until a high positive count develops, without playing negative or marginal counts?

[Alan Mendelson]

Alan is just a degenerative gambler, completely ignorant of winning play, advantage play. Hell, he doesn't even realize how much he is embarrassing himself.

Obviously he could give a shit about emabarrasing himself; for him it's all about ATTENTION, be it positive or negative, it's all the same to him.

He's been on the receiving end of well-deserved critcism for DECADES that I've seen on various gambling boards, and it rolls off him like rain off a duck.

He is what he is.

Please list the criticism for DECADES that you are speaking about?

You and I have battled over one thing: I say dice influencing is possible, but I concede that I have seen three and possibly four true dice influencers.

18 yos in a row? I was there. I saw it. Everyone else says it's impossible but they weren't there to say "Alan you miscounted." Frankly I don't care. I didn't roll it. I have nothing to win or lose whether you believe it happened or not.

The two dice in a cup? Curiously the peeker knows the answer is 1/6, but you "math guys" says his friend's correct answer is 1/11. Isn't this interesting: there are two correct answers.

Now what else? Win loss goals and limits. The biggest casino on the planet is the stock/commodity markets and you'd be insane to trade without have stop losses, and the smart traders use rising stop losses when they are in a profitable situation. Still want to argue that?

Now tell me what else is in this decade of criticism? Do you also want to tell me that after losing $8800 you actually had a winning day?

Telling someone that they had a winning day after losing $8800 sounds like something a con artist tells his mark, while asking him to invest more money in his no-lose system. I think I helped put some people in federal prison for doing that... they were selling mortgage investments. The marks kept being told their investments were going up in value but meanwhile their cash was evaporating.

[MaxPen]

Please list the criticism for DECADES that you are speaking about?

You and I have battled over one thing: I say dice influencing is possible, but I concede that I have seen three and possibly four true dice influencers.

18 yos in a row? I was there. I saw it. Everyone else says it's impossible but they weren't there to say "Alan you miscounted." Frankly I don't care. I didn't roll it. I have nothing to win or lose whether you believe it happened or not.

The two dice in a cup? Curiously the peeker knows the answer is 1/6, but you "math guys" says his friend's correct answer is 1/11. Isn't this interesting: there are two correct answers.

Now what else? Win loss goals and limits. The biggest casino on the planet is the stock/commodity markets and you'd be insane to trade without have stop losses, and the smart traders use rising stop losses when they are in a profitable situation. Still want to argue that?

Now tell me what else is in this decade of criticism? Do you also want to tell me that after losing $8800 you actually had a winning day?

Telling someone that they had a winning day after losing $8800 sounds like something a con artist tells his mark, while asking him to invest more money in his no-lose system. I think I helped put some people in federal prison for doing that... they were selling mortgage investments. The marks kept being told their investments were going up in value but meanwhile their cash was evaporating.

You have pretty much proved yourself a fool. Wow, I had no idea someone could be so out there. Oh shit!!!!! You are the site founder? LOL........WTF?

[MaxPen]

Trading and playing a game with an edge are 2 completely different things. You need a stop loss gambling because you are playing a negative expectation game. This is pretty basic stuff to understand.

[Alan Mendelson]

Trading and playing a game with an edge are 2 completely different things. You need a stop loss gambling because you are playing a negative expectation game. This is pretty basic stuff to understand.

Are you saying you don't need a stop loss even in a positive expectation game? Of course you are. Now think about that. Why wouldn't you want a stop loss in a positive expectation game? Are you infallible?

Forgive me. APs of course are infallible. Even when they lose $8800 they're winning.

LMAO

[jbjb]

Trading and playing a game with an edge are 2 completely different things. You need a stop loss gambling because you are playing a negative expectation game. This is pretty basic stuff to understand.

Are you saying you don't need a stop loss even in a positive expectation game? Of course you are. Now think about that. Why wouldn't you want a stop loss in a positive expectation game? Are you infallible?

Forgive me. APs of course are infallible. Even when they lose $8800 they're winning.

LMAO

Well, he's STILL up nearly $1,000,000 lifetime. And I'm certain he'll end this year up a lot of money also. So, how much are YOU up again lifetime?????? Now that's a REAL "LMAO!"

[Alan Mendelson]

I wonder if all these APs are looking for investors in their play?

[kewlJ]

Are you saying you don't need a stop loss even in a positive expectation game? Of course you are. Now think about that. Why wouldn't you want a stop loss in a positive expectation game?

Good grief...How easy you made it Alan.

Negative expectation game = the more you play the more you lose. So a stop limit prevents you from losing too much.

Positive expectation game = the more you play the more you WIN. So yes...your question is exactly right....WHY WOULD YOU WANT A STOP LIMIT IN A POSITIVE EXPECTATION GAME? Maybe YOU should think about that!

Alan, you are focusing on short term results (a single day) which is meaningless. That's like looking at a baseball game that Sandy Koufax lost in 1967 and saying "gee he must have been a bad pitcher".

[RS__]

Biloxi Bill got banned for trolling, but Alan's still here somehow.....?

[kewlJ]

It is really this simple: think about the word "stop" and think about the terms "positive expectation" (winning) and "negative expectation" (losing).

Negative expectation: a 'stop limit' stops you from losing too much.

Positive expectation: a 'stop limit' stops you from winning too much.

[kewlJ]

Ok, how about this example Alan. (I am going to keep trying to see if I can get through his thick skull)

So Roulette: the house has an advantage right? Does that mean no player ever wins playing roulette? No One ever plays for an hour and walks away a winner? Does the house win every time? No of course not. Players win, because it is just variance (of a negative expectation game).

So, when a player wins playing roulette, does the house (who has the advantage) have some sort of "stop limit"? Does the house say, we have lost xx amount of dollars (maybe $8800), so we are going to close up for the day? Maybe tomorrow things will go better?

OF COURSE NOT! The house knows they have they advantage and if the players keep playing long enough (long-term) the house will win.

So, playing a positive expectation game, where the player has an advantage, why would a player have some sort of artificial stop limit? The more he plays, whether today, tomorrow, next week or next month, the more he is going to win in the long run.....just like the house with roulette.

[MaxPen]

Trading and playing a game with an edge are 2 completely different things. You need a stop loss gambling because you are playing a negative expectation game. This is pretty basic stuff to understand.

Are you saying you don't need a stop loss even in a positive expectation game? Of course you are. Now think about that. Why wouldn't you want a stop loss in a positive expectation game? Are you infallible?

Forgive me. APs of course are infallible. Even when they lose $8800 they're winning.

LMAO

No stop loss needed when exploiting an edge. More playing equals more money earned is why you would not have a stop loss. Does the casino close a table down because they are losing? NO, they bring out more chips and keep the lights on.
My edge is infallible.

[Chimp]

After the very clear and simple explanations here about +EV, I think I finally understand it.

One thing I don’t understand...doesn’t not playing continuously affect the final outcome? If others play it while you are gone and they hit several jackpots. Don’t you have to “start over” each time you go back?
Or is that too small of a time to affect the overall results?
Maybe I don’t quite understand. Lol

[MaxPen]

After the very clear and simple explanations here about +EV, I think I finally understand it.

One thing I don’t understand...doesn’t not playing continuously affect the final outcome? If others play it while you are gone and they hit several jackpots. Don’t you have to “start over” each time you go back?
Or is that too small of a time to affect the overall results?
Maybe I don’t quite understand. Lol

You are trying to relate an action that is +EV to an action that is -EV. When you find a real edge nothing others do matters, unless they are grinding the same edge in the same joint as you.

[House of Orange]

Biloxi Bill got banned for trolling, but Alan's still here somehow.....?

He is a very entertaining individual, a wanna be di and a roller of yo's