Not alot of talk about civil forfeiture but I used to listen to a libertarian radio show thats no longer on here....and there would be people talking about nightmare stories of police depts funding trips to Hawaii for police conventions, or other personal or department use. It seems the old speed trap giving 60 dollar tickets just takes too long. cars, real estate, contents of a wallet....all fair game. And the crazy thing is YOU have to prove you are innocent. The burden is on YOU.