Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
About 15 years ago Doug Reul told me the frequency of the top line hit on the Blazing Sevens is 16 X 16 X 16 = 4096.
Are you saying that the top line is always set to that for every machine in Vegas for the last 15 years or so? I am sure you are not saying that but even if you were that is fine... I am guessing the odds are different for the regular and red sevens depending on where you play. Just for example in my own experience I can give you 3 spots where I used to play them a lot. Mostly I played them at the Palms because when they first put them in the techs told me they were set to 100% payback believe it or not. I can't prove that but I can tell you I played those sevens for almost two decades and they were the best in town. They dropped the payback percentage down and they had them set to a high 99 for a very long time according to some employees that I am/was friendly with. Needless to say when they would run the huge multipliers or promotions I hammered them constantly.

Now at Circus Circus it was completely different... I wouldn't mess with them until they got to 2600. The variance of sevens rolling around was completely different. The same goes for downtown and other places but when they first came out they were obviously set at a higher return. About 10 years or so ago I could tell they were changed just by playing them because of the difference in movement. It was obvious they weren't good anymore or the entry point was much higher. I also had a heads up from other players and employees that they were changed/moved.

However I still find playable Reels that are sevens or seven variations but they are almost gone.

Interesting note though about the Red Hot Sevens which is a similar game... I have constantly shown a win on them but you have to be around triple jackpot or better. Like I say I like it at 3200 to start. I had two higher ups as me if I ever lost on them or what do I play and I told them I do but I have been on a very good run and that i mostly play Slots or Reel Machines.

I always figured they don't care if you win on these machines because it doesn't change their hold or win percentage but it is clear that no Casino likes anyone to win constantly on anything and if you show constant winners you are going to draw heat eventually.