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    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    . Show me a copy of the rules, please. The rules didn't cover all angles. I would agree, some things are just implied.

    Not every AP there engaged in shenanigans. I did not myself. I did warn a group that they were being watched and creating attention. They disregarded my advice and got fucked. There we some others who took out a line of credit knowing the casino might catch on and used that as levrage.

    we played somthing and beat the promo without ever having to collect one rebate. Of course, they shut all those machines down after they got hit hard.

    There were a few people who got fucked by the casino. We had someone that the casino attempted to fuck who did absolutely nothing wrong. He simply played the $100 slot going for the variance. After some jackpots, they renigged on the comps that were promised and 86ed him. There have been many promotions and machines that were played 100% within the rules and yet the casino refused to pay or honor their promo. There have been many times where gaming agreed the casino was out of line and ruled in the AP's favor. I have only had gaming rule against me once. They only did that because the bar was about to be in a world of hurt.
    Of course you'll say those things because you want to believe your buddies. I discussed the promo with the casino after it ended and they told me every single player who got stopped was stopped because they ignored the rules--which were clearly posted at the cage, at the slot club, and were available to review prior to starting play. People who played as a team, card pullers, fake names and ID's, on and on, and they broke every rule because they claimed it gave them an "advantage". And maybe it did--but they only outsmarted and screwed themselves. If you and yours won w/o having to wait for a rebate then you were lucky, just like my friend was.
    Well then they lied to you. I know it to be a fact since the guy was part of our group. He was playing how he was intructed to and that was to play straight up on the $100 slots.
    Axel,

    You missed the gist of Argentino's point. He "discussed the promo with the casino." Now the interesting writing aspect is how Argentino swiveled from his discussing it with "the casino," and then following with a clause where he claims it was a "they." Then you reply by parroting his "they," which implies that he asked a person or people. But he really did not say that. He said that he asked "the casino." You fell for the trick.

    Now, I'm not sure how the brick-and-mortar answered, or if it was the carpeting or chandeliers that assured him of the truth of what he says, or if it was simply voices in his head, but let me walk you through the writing of this.

    Argentino is trying to create the illusion that he asked somebody without specifying an actual person or people. If he does that, and they are still living, some enterprising soul could check up on him by asking that person or people. Then you could verify the status and job description of whoever he allegedly asked at that time. So instead of getting a name or a position, which could be researched, you get that he "discussed the promo with the casino." Then you get a pivot to "they" in the clause following that. Then you get you adopting his "they" as the pronoun used to describe "the casino."

    Now Argentino will fret that this was all just lingo and language, and he meant nothing devious by it. I'm sure, he being such an accurate and truthful surveyor of the human condition and all, that he's correct (I'm copying kewlJ's facetiousness here). So all he has to do to make things right, and bring a human into it rather than "the casino," is give the name(s) of who he spoke to in authority, so everyone can track that person or people down and ask them directly. Maybe he asked the janitor on duty in the lower level men's room. At least then there would be a name.

    When these dudes post something, you have to X-ray it at least a little. Otherwise, you get Mr. Mendelson's "it's well documented," without his specifying any documentation or you get an alleged reading of "reports" that were just Argentino's posts or you get "I asked the casino" and the casino becomes a "they" and no name is supplied.

    Both of these guys are good writers and know exactly what they are doing. They are manipulating you. There's nothing accidental in a piece of writing.

    You have to think like a journalism professor grading some student who may have written his paper without doing any research.
    Last edited by redietz; 07-06-2018 at 02:36 AM.

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