"Long run" is nothing more than the theoretical return that you get from the paytable of a video poker machine. It's not real for me or kewlj or MrV or anybody else.

How often do you get a royal flush? Without one even a +EV game is negative, probably by 2-percent.

None of you video poker players have ever had a +EV game unless ahead of time you were assured you'd get a royal exactly on schedule.

Who here has? You're all fooling yourselves

I'm probably the only honest person here admitting I've never had a winning year in a casino. It's the rest of you who live in the fantasy of long term theory.