Rob Singer didn't beat video poker

[RS__]

Coach,....
Your questions, pretty much all of them, reveal that you have no idea what you're talking about.

^This

[coach belly]

Your questions, pretty much all of them, reveal that you have no idea what you're talking about.

But I'm not talking like I know, I'm asking questions because I don't know.

Can you request a check for a winning sports bet, or must you accept cash or chips first, and then exchange them for a check?

[kewlJ]

Here's the thing coach belly. You and Alan and a couple other, routinely question things that are said that don't sound right to you. Nothing wrong with that on the surface, but it is more than that. You guys do so in a very accusing way. You are always trying to find some sort of gottch ya moment. And usually it is just something that you don't know about, so maybe it doesn't sound right to you, but almost always it is right.

Frankly I am a little tired of guys that have no clue like Alan questioning me, but not doing so in way of trying to learn something he doesn't know about, but rather doing so in way of "that's bullshit", when he has no clue about the topic....ZERO!

I mean the solution is that I just won't share experiences here. Other members have already taken to this remedy, so I will join them. I will just troll, and play games as that is what this site is....not a legitimate discussion about casino play of any kind.

And by the way, Redietz is the target of these attacks by those that have ZERO clue, more than anyone. Near as I can tell, some of you people have been going at it for over a decade, maybe longer than I have been of age to play in a casino. I guess some of you don't like Redietz so you try to discredit him....that is the playbook right?


Well let me tell you, I don't know a hell of a lot about sportsbetting (with an advantage), nor do I understand half of what Redietz says. I totally don't get the references about his cousin or what that has to do with anything. But I find Redietz to be VERY credible. Most of what he says is just flat out credible. You guys don't like him and have a long running battle, but it is just bullshit....it's childish. What are you hoping to gain, run another member off the site. Just knock it the fuck off and grow up.

[redietz]

The sports books pay off winning bets with chips?

Never heard of such a thing. And I made a few calls after reading that.

Mr. Mendelson, please, you make calls regarding the use of checks to pay sports bets, but never make a call to get a mathematician's take on Argentino's martingales or your win goal/loss limit nonsense?

You do realize that you are hanging yourself again? Why do you persist with this? What idiot would make up a story about getting checks as payment for a sports wager? What purpose would it serve to invent something like that?

Keep calling, Mr. Mendelson, that's my advice.

This is the gist of it. I say to Mr. Mendelson here, "You do realize that you are hanging yourself again?"

Yet he still takes a crack at debunking something he knows nothing about. Can you imagine if he tried to fine-tooth comb Argentino's nonsense? Multiple RVs, Hellcats that disappear, storage lockers with rigged video poker machines, income tax challenges that never materialize due to one party, a system that's never committed to paper, full-time professional gambler status working four hours a week (if filed as individual), trainees who stay cloistered for a decade, Jerry Logan, and on and on.

But I say that E.R. told me he got checks as payment from a sports book, and Mr. Mendelson calls the NGC. Funny stuff. Quite the consumer advocate.

It's goddamn hilarious how blatant his whoring for a fraudster has become.

And still I say, "You do realize that you are hanging yourself again?" Cutting the dude a forewarned break that he is absolutely incorrect.

[redietz]

I'm somewhat surprised coach belly couldn't figure out the rationale

I still don't see the rationale for accepting chips.

Did he intend to make lots more large bets that day, like RS's buddy?

Did he eventually cash the chips in, or did you find them with the tickets in your garage?

Belly, this is what I mean by you being clueless. I'd frame this as a "gotcha" for me, but what's the point? The rationale isn't for accepting checks (chips). Obviously, I never wrote that. It's for the casino GIVING you checks. You can request whatever you like. The casino isn't obligated to fulfill your request.

Consider that a free life lesson. "You can get your checks out anytime you like, but some can never leave."

[coach belly]

The rationale isn't for accepting checks (chips). It's for the casino GIVING you checks.

I was under the impression that a casino's sports book would pay large winnings like the casino would for a poker tournament cash, or a machine jackpot...you can request a check.

It's still not clear to me if that's not the case, you seem to be avoiding answering that directly, so further research is required.

I'll find out how they will handle it in AC this weekend, maybe Alan or somebody can ask at Mandalay Bay..."can the player request a check for winnings at the sports book?"

As for whether the rationale is/was for giving or accepting chips, RS explains the rationale for a player requesting chips below.

He explained the scenario from a player's perspective...the same perspective that I was interested in.

Using and getting paid in chips is "common" for sports bettors. At least for those who bet "big" amounts. It's much easier to deal with $20k in chips than $20k in cash....especially if you're making lots of bets and plan to make more bets. My buddy who bets fairly big (min ~$1k, max ~$15k) always uses chips

[coach belly]

Here's the thing coach belly. You and Alan and a couple other, routinely question things that are said that don't sound right to you. Nothing wrong with that on the surface, but it is more than that. You guys do so in a very accusing way.

Asking questions in an accusing way is the thing that bothers you...is that right?

You are without a doubt the biggest hypocrite in this group.

You started a thread accusing me of a crime, and repeated the accusation several times...no questions of an accusing nature, just an outright accusation.

Then there are the constant accusations that you routinely direct at Alan, those never stop.

It doesn't matter what you say that you'll do, you've already quit this forum multiple times, so who knows what to believe from you?

[Alan Mendelson]

Redietz I called various casinos to find out if their sports books paid in cash or chips. They all told me they paid in cash. The NGC said bets could be paid in cash or chips.

I never asked anyone about checks. That's a question someone else asked about and I was never involved in the discussion. So why did you mention me as if I was?

And thank you for admitting you did give me a gotcha about sitting at craps. Thank you for admitting you never played the game.

It's clear that you will attack me every chance you get because you think I should be investigating Rob Singer. Look buddy, I don't care about hell cats or RVs or about storage lockers. Im not going to waste my time. I don't care if he has those toys or not. And you and everyone else shouldn't care either.

I'm not going to investigate his math claims either because he's honestly said everything about his special plays but you won't listen.

Kewlj you also have to attack me every chance you get. Say what you want. I don't care. My life doesn't even include you. You're just an anonymous poster on a forum who admits to faking his own death. What else?

[RS__]

Alan, I think people attack you because you constantly say stupid shit.

[Alan Mendelson]

Alan, I think people attack you because you constantly say stupid shit.

I can accept when I'm wrong, but don't lie about me.

[kewlJ]

Kewlj you also have to attack me every chance you get.

I attack YOU every chance I get? I think you have that backwards sir. Who jumped up at 3am and ran out to the casino to take blurry pictures of a blackjack table thinking they were going to discredit me, simply because I mentioned a technique that you were not familiar with?

You're just an anonymous poster on a forum who admits to faking his own death. What else?

Good one Alan! This is an incident that occurred a decade ago after I was robbed at gunpoint. Am I proud of this solution made in haste? No. Would I do it differently if given the chance? Yes. BUT, how does this incident even effect you? You are not a professional blackjack player, who carried 10's of thousands of dollars each and every day, so you have no idea what I was thinking or going through. AND It was 8 years before you had any idea who I was. You are just looking for yet another reason to take a shot at me, because that is who you are.


You holding this incident against me, that you were not part of and didn't know me at the time is equivalent to me claiming you are a liar because you married and divorces a number of times (Till death do us part?). That had nothing to do with me and I don't know the circumstances so I don't judge you on that. I judge you on your actions and statements on this site, while I have been here. And to THAT I find you a liar and dishonest person. And this yet another example of that dishonesty trait that runs so strong within you.

[coach belly]

you are a liar because you married and divorces a number of times (Till death do us part?).

You obviously don't understand what a lie is.

A lie is a statement made with intent to deceive.

You don't know what Alan's wedding vows were, and you can't know that they were made with an intent to deceive.

You're a tewl.

[Alan Mendelson]

Kewlj.

1. You don't know who divorced who, so I'll tell you. All four divorced me.

2. You're a coward for not meeting up with me at the casinos to show me how you can even see the cards at other tables. That my photos were blurry means nothing. You're a coward.

[MaxPen]

1. You don't know who divorced who, so I'll tell you. All four divorced me.

Imagine that, I would have never guessed.

[Alan Mendelson]

1. You don't know who divorced who, so I'll tell you. All four divorced me.

Imagine that, I would have never guessed.

Yes and I paid a lot for trusting their lies.

[kewlJ]

you are a liar because you married and divorces a number of times (Till death do us part?).

You obviously don't understand what a lie is.

A lie is a statement made with intent to deceive.

You don't know what Alan's wedding vows were, and you can't know that they were made with an intent to deceive.

You're a tewl.

And you are a troll. You add zero value to this forum. Nothing but an internet troll.

[kewlJ]

Kewlj.

1. You don't know who divorced who, so I'll tell you. All four divorced me.

2. You're a coward for not meeting up with me at the casinos to show me how you can even see the cards at other tables. That my photos were blurry means nothing. You're a coward.

Believe me Alan, I and everyone else already knew who divorced who. Lol

Now let's see if you can be honest for a change... Did any of these divorces have anything to do with your gambling?

[Alan Mendelson]

Never went to a casino with wife #1 except for our honeymoon in St Maarten.

Wife #2 and I visited Vegas together.

I paid off $60,000 in wife #3's credit card debt because she was a gambler.

Wife #4 is the one with cancer and the marriage was annulled after two weeks. We got married after three dates. But became friends again.

Of course none of that will mean anything to you because you'll troll me and throw it back in my face.

I asked everyone on this forum to go to a casino and sit at a blackjack table and report back if cards at the neighboring table were visible. Redietz said he did it and they were. But who else has?

I've done it and I couldn't see cards because of the angle of the tables. The only way was to stand up and shift my head to compensate for the semi circle shape of the tables. Who else has tried?

[a2a3dseddie]

Rob Singer has not made any mathematical impossible claims. The rest of you have twisted his comments to make it seem he has.

Out of curiosity, what does everyone here consider to be a mathematically impossible claim?

[Alan Mendelson]

Let me first remind everyone what Rob did say about his Special Plays. He said they are ALL at a mathematical disadvantagr to the conventional play. But he was taking a chance hoping to get lucky on a big win.

Now, for everyone including redietz, just what would you like me to ask those math professors? Should I ask them if they believe in luck?