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    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I just have to say, if this is is true there's a way to take advantage of it.
    No shit. You are telling me this a little late don't you think?

    In the last 24 hours I have been under attack from all sides. Someone claiming to be associated with shufflemaster, threatening me. AP's, some who I considered friends, pissed at me, for outing a play, calling me traitor. One threatened to reveal my name and address. I am the bad guy here I guess.


    But let me tell you how it really went down. I am a card counter. I never claimed to be the brightest bulb in the pack. I dabble in other AP, if it's not too complicated, but mostly I am a card counter. Card counting is how I have supported myself and made the vast majority of my living for 15 years now.

    So as a card counter, I come across a situation, that I identified as cheating and bad for blackjack players, card counters and non-card counters (regular players) alike. And I wanted to 1.) expose what I still believe is illegal and cheating and 2.) warn other players, both card counters and regular players.

    So it turns out, just as you said, there are members in our community that figured this out before me and have found ways to exploit it. AND they are now pissed at me.....calling me a traitor.

    But here's the problem. I didn't come up with this yesterday, out of the blue. I first noticed this months ago and have been collecting data. I didn't want to make such an allegation, without being reasonably sure. And during this time, I have mentioned this several times on various sites, including the first thread I started just over 2 weeks ago, at the same time I contacted you and several other AP's about my concerns.

    So knowing that I was heading down this road, at no time did any of these AP's contact me. Give me a heads up. How about something like "hey you might not want to travel down that road". So not knowing THAT angle, I did what I did from a card counter / blackjack player point of view, with the goal of protecting card counters and (traditional) blackjack players.

    And I still think someone needs to be looking out for card counters AND non-card counter traditional -EV players. Because what this casino, and shufflemaster is doing is illegal. BUT, had I know that some in our community were exploiting it....one upping the casino attempt to cheat, I certainly wouldn't have brought it to light. I would have just quietly stopped playing the tables in question.

    So while I am the bad guy here, I think there is blame to go around. All it would have taken was a little heads up from my fellow AP's who could see where I was headed. But NO.... AP's, can't do that. They are so goddam worried about someone finding out about one of their opportunities.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 07-24-2018 at 06:56 PM.

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