$25k challenge

[jbjb]

8 out of 10 sessions is fucking meaningless, win or lose. The real question...Does it work 24/7/365? By this, I mean, hit the win goal and start over. Rinse and repeat. The answer to this is a big fat NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Dumb and dumber from the #1 armchair gambler here. The 85 percent comes from ten years and about 350 sessions. If you really believed that you'd have accepted the challenge, while identifying the number of sessions you want me to play.

Can't do it can you. No money/no balls.

10 Years and about 350 Sessions Total!?
What do you do in your Spare Time?
Must be nice. I am Jealous of the thought of those numbers!
I put in almost 350 Sessions Per Year!
Depending on what you consider a Session, it could be up to 10 times that amount, or more, Per Year!!
Everyone on this Forum makes the "Easy Money' while I have to work "Hard" to Steal mine.

He had to wait for those huge government handout checks.

[Rob.Singer]

8 out of 10 sessions is fucking meaningless, win or lose. The real question...Does it work 24/7/365? By this, I mean, hit the win goal and start over. Rinse and repeat. The answer to this is a big fat NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Dumb and dumber from the #1 armchair gambler here. The 85 percent comes from ten years and about 350 sessions. If you really believed that you'd have accepted the challenge, while identifying the number of sessions you want me to play.

Can't do it can you. No money/no balls.

10 Years and about 350 Sessions Total!?
What do you do in your spare time?
Must be nice. I am Jealous of the thought of those numbers!
I put in almost 350 Sessions Per Year!
Depending on what you consider a Session it could be up to 10 times that amount or more per year!!

I don't live in LV and I'd never live in that libtard-infested shithole. I have a family, I no longer gamble for a living, and we travel extensively in our RV's. I also do not need any more money. And I see a million dollars is a lot for people like jbjb.

[jbjb]

Dumb and dumber from the #1 armchair gambler here. The 85 percent comes from ten years and about 350 sessions. If you really believed that you'd have accepted the challenge, while identifying the number of sessions you want me to play.

Can't do it can you. No money/no balls.

10 Years and about 350 Sessions Total!?
What do you do in your spare time?
Must be nice. I am Jealous of the thought of those numbers!
I put in almost 350 Sessions Per Year!
Depending on what you consider a Session it could be up to 10 times that amount or more per year!!

I don't live in LV and I'd never live in that libtard-infested shithole. I have a family, I no longer gamble for a living, and we travel extensively in our RV's. I also do not need any more money. And I see a million dollars is a lot for people like jbjb.

Cut the crap you phoney POS. As mentioned before, A simple background check on you shows you're full of it!! More lousy, lame excuses. Go make that $5 million plus a year!!! Or in the words of Bart Simpson...."Get Bent!"

[slingshot]

Dumb and dumber from the #1 armchair gambler here. The 85 percent comes from ten years and about 350 sessions. If you really believed that you'd have accepted the challenge, while identifying the number of sessions you want me to play.

Can't do it can you. No money/no balls.

10 Years and about 350 Sessions Total!?
What do you do in your spare time?
Must be nice. I am Jealous of the thought of those numbers!
I put in almost 350 Sessions Per Year!
Depending on what you consider a Session it could be up to 10 times that amount or more per year!!

I don't live in LV and I'd never live in that libtard-infested shithole. I have a family, I no longer gamble for a living, and we travel extensively in our RV's. I also do not need any more money. And I see a million dollars is a lot for people like jbjb.

You've finally accomplished your goal- you've driven everyone here mad!! I've never seen this craziness before!

[monet]

10 Years and about 350 Sessions Total!?
What do you do in your spare time?
Must be nice. I am Jealous of the thought of those numbers!
I put in almost 350 Sessions Per Year!
Depending on what you consider a Session it could be up to 10 times that amount or more per year!!

I don't live in LV and I'd never live in that libtard-infested shithole. I have a family, I no longer gamble for a living, and we travel extensively in our RV's. I also do not need any more money. And I see a million dollars is a lot for people like jbjb.

You've finally accomplished your goal- you've driven everyone here mad!! I've never seen this craziness before!

You ever research or study up on Dung Beetles?
I don't want to bore you too much.
It seems that some Dung Beetles will roll up this large ball of feces.
However, the stronger or smarter ones will attack and steal the ball after it is all rolled up.
It seems that it takes much less effort to Steal a ready made ball compared to rolling it into a ball.

[Mission146]

I never did say that. But because Rob plays a negative expectation game none of you can believe that he may have won what he said he won.

Who do you purport to be speaking for? I've never challenged any of the results that he has claimed because:

1.) I don't care enough about him to be paying attention.

AND

2.) As long as his results are within the bounds of mathematical possibility, what would give me the authority to challenge them? I would challenge them if they were next to mathematically impossible, but from what I can tell, they're not.

[kewlJ]

I have to add this in. Kew, the reason I know you're not even close to being the real deal, is with your plethora of stupid, uneducated comments, you regularly show that you do not know how to think beyond the basics

I can and will say the same thing about you, Singer. Your comments have proven, you don't have the slightest clue about blackjack AP, and yet, that doesn't stop you from talking shit as if you do.

And your constantly calling everyone else "uneducated" highlights your own insecurity.

You may be "educated" and that may have served you well in the business world, but it obviously doesn't translate to the AP/Gambling world. Mickeycrimm, the target of much of your insecure "uneducated" attacks, is 100x more knowledgeable (and successful) in this field and everyone knows it. You know why everyone knows it....because YOU have proven it, over and over again.

I honestly don't know what your deal is. I don't know if it is about selling that goofy book, based on completely false mathematics and ideas....alternative math if you will. Or maybe you just need to try to stay relevant, now that you have become irrelevant. But you are lying, Rob Singer. You know it. I know it. Most of the people you come in contact with know it.

Just because you have a book published, doesn't make the concepts in it worth a damn. Jerry Patterson published a book on the "target system" for blackjack. Completely irrelevant and useless. Similarly to much of John Patrick's work, not even worth toilet paper.

[Mission146]

For those of you who maintain that Rob has a progressive betting system consider this: if Rob should reach his $2500 win goal at $1 Bonus Poker (the first game he plays in each session) he will leave the casino. How is that a progression?

If I walk up to the Craps Table with an intent to Martingale the Pass Line, but instead I win my first bet, was I not still intending to do a Martingale? The only difference is deniability, since I won my first bet, I could deny that is what I was doing.

Yes, counting cards often involves deck-composition progression betting. Strictly speaking, it's a betting system, especially if you say:

If TC +2, then x

If TC +3, then y

That's pretty much exactly what a betting system is, you change your bet depending on certain pre-described conditions being met. The difference with card counting is that it has a positive expectation because the bets are increased when the player has an advantage. Absent other factors, just playing (most) VP games straight up, the player never enters a hand having an advantage on that hand.

Do you know when a player Martingales the Pass Line at Craps that the casino is Reverse-Martingaling the Pass Line with respect to that player? They don't mind, though, because they have the advantage. Some casinos may also use table limits to limit their exposure, but that's not because of Martingale guy.

As far as, "We're all progression players," I don't think that's strictly true unless the Progression is pre-defined. That's what a system is. It's switching the bet amount and/or playing strategy when a particular hypothetical is met, if x, then y. If you don't predefine your hypotheticals, then I wouldn't really call it a system.

[Mission146]

There were many times I hit a royal and lost it the same day (not a $100k royal). At least with Rob's system I would have enjoyed that money for a week or a month.

Maybe a hard stop win and hard stop loss wouldn't be so bad for you if it will help you be more disciplined with your money. Your expectation will remain the total amount bet * the house edge, but there are certain pragmatic considerations at play if you think that leaving ahead will make you feel better.

[monet]

I don't know much.
From what I understand a few people on here went to University.

RS went to University and became a Dice Dealer and after that is running around the World finding monster plays all over the place making easy money and laughing it up!
In his spare time, he enjoys beating the Crew Members he runs with like Axelwolf and Djatc in games like Poker or that could be the other way around.

ZenKing went to University and has a degree in Business. It seems that he used that education to move to Vegas and Count Cards like Rain Man.
Is some sort of FIFA Genius crushing the competition making easy dough in Tournaments.

I didn't go to University and I think Mickeycrimm didn't either. Sucks to be me.

[kewlJ]

Monet, just curious. What is your beef with RS?

You know that thing I always say that it doesn't take too much to figure out who is credible and knows what they are talking about and who is just talking? RS is very knowledgeable and credible, IMO.

It seems to be something personal. Is it because he was a former dealer?

[monet]

Monet, just curious. What is your beef with RS?

You know that thing I always say that it doesn't take too much to figure out who is credible and knows what they are talking about and who is just talking? RS is very knowledgeable and credible, IMO.

It seems to be something personal. Is it because he was a former dealer?

He runs around with the circle of friends who all get along and spread cheer everywhere they go doing good to all of mankind.
He uses his prowess as an AP to Hustle Machines and the Casinos so that he can give to the poor.
Many other things to list but obviously you missed them long ago when they were posted.
I do not like or get along with Hypocrites.
I am against Him and His Circle and Their Do Gooder Mission.

[Mission146]

I am against Him and His Circle and Their Do Gooder Mission.

I don't believe I've ever spoken to RS outside of the forum in my entire life. It's either him or MaxPen that I happened to be on a three-way call with for about ten minutes, but I didn't initiate the call and I always forget whether it was RS or MaxPen. I think MaxPen.

Anyway of the, "Circle," you're speaking of, I'm pretty sure Axelwolf is the only one I've spoken to outside of the forum since something like 2015. I'm not sure whether that should qualify me as, "In the circle," but I wouldn't think so.

That's not to say I have a problem with any of them, because I don't. I guess my point is that I have no real relationship with any of them of any kind aside from AxelWolf.

[monet]

I am against Him and His Circle and Their Do Gooder Mission.

I don't believe I've ever spoken to RS outside of the forum in my entire life. It's either him or MaxPen that I happened to be on a three-way call with for about ten minutes, but I didn't initiate the call and I always forget whether it was RS or MaxPen. I think MaxPen.

Anyway of the, "Circle," you're speaking of, I'm pretty sure Axelwolf is the only one I've spoken to outside of the forum since something like 2015. I'm not sure whether that should qualify me as, "In the circle," but I wouldn't think so.

That's not to say I have a problem with any of them, because I don't. I guess my point is that I have no real relationship with any of them of any kind aside from AxelWolf.

LOL

Even though I put Mission at the end of the sentence, Mission146 had no reference in my problem or beef or statement.

You missed it when RS told me he had a Good Group of Friends in College and a Bad Group of Friends.
The Good group was always blowing sunshine up each others asses.
The Bad Group was trying to Hustle and Steal from one another.

I don't need to explain the whole thing.
I declared War on RS long ago and I will have no inkling of Negotiation or Peace Talks.

[Mission146]

That's fine, then. Everyone says, "Mission," as opposed to, "Mission146," (which is fine) and you know I'm friends with Axelwolf, so that's why I thought you were referring to me. My bad.

[kewlJ]

Monet, just curious. What is your beef with RS?

You know that thing I always say that it doesn't take too much to figure out who is credible and knows what they are talking about and who is just talking? RS is very knowledgeable and credible, IMO.

It seems to be something personal. Is it because he was a former dealer?

He runs around with the circle of friends who all get along and spread cheer everywhere they go doing good to all of mankind.
He uses his prowess as an AP to Hustle Machines and the Casinos so that he can give to the poor.
Many other things to list but obviously you missed them long ago when they were posted.
I do not like or get along with Hypocrites.
I am against Him and His Circle and Their Do Gooder Mission.

Interesting. (ok, not really. )

When I am critical of someone or challenge someone's claims, it isn't personal. I am challenging their claims that are not credible, like making a million dollars playing -EV video poker, or seeing 18 y.o.'s in a row, or the reason I am banned from a blackjack site and WoV, because I challenged someone's phony "super duper" card counting technique that gave him an impossible 5% advantage.

I really try not to make it personal. Why would I care about what someone does, or who they hang around with?

Even with a situation like Mike Shackleford, yeah I took that situation somewhat personally, but I tried to keep separate my views of Mike Shackleford the mathematician and AP vs Mike Shackleford the lousy forum administrator, and IMO small man, lacking integrity. I don't try to discredit his mathematical or AP credibility because I think he is a lousy person.

[kewlJ]

I don't need to explain the whole thing.
I declared War on RS long ago and I will have no inkling of Negotiation or Peace Talks.

I guess I just can't relate to this. Although I have never met him, I no longer care for Axelwolf, based on online interactions. BUT, I would never suggest that he is not credible in anything he says as an AP because of that.

But, to each his own. Fight your war if you must. I am just not sure anyone is fighting back. Doesn't seem like RS is at war with you.

Oh well, time to think about work. I'll catch up with your war later.

[slingshot]

I don't live in LV and I'd never live in that libtard-infested shithole. I have a family, I no longer gamble for a living, and we travel extensively in our RV's. I also do not need any more money. And I see a million dollars is a lot for people like jbjb.

You've finally accomplished your goal- you've driven everyone here mad!! I've never seen this craziness before!

You ever research or study up on Dung Beetles?
I don't want to bore you too much.
It seems that some Dung Beetles will roll up this large ball of feces.
However, the stronger or smarter ones will attack and steal the ball after it is all rolled up.
It seems that it takes much less effort to Steal a ready made ball compared to rolling it into a ball.

Got it.

[Alan Mendelson]

I never did say that. But because Rob plays a negative expectation game none of you can believe that he may have won what he said he won.

Who do you purport to be speaking for? I've never challenged any of the results that he has claimed because:

1.) I don't care enough about him to be paying attention.

AND

2.) As long as his results are within the bounds of mathematical possibility, what would give me the authority to challenge them? I would challenge them if they were next to mathematically impossible, but from what I can tell, they're not.

I do not speak for Rob but I did interview him. And when I read something here that relates to the information he gave me in my interviews I will comment.

In addition to my videos there are lengthy articles on my website which contain additional information. Rob also wrote other articles which were not edited by me that appear on my website. These articles and videos should stop the false statements that are continually made here by his critics. But his critics don't care to find out the truth.

[MaxPen]

I never did say that. But because Rob plays a negative expectation game none of you can believe that he may have won what he said he won.

Who do you purport to be speaking for? I've never challenged any of the results that he has claimed because:

1.) I don't care enough about him to be paying attention.

AND

2.) As long as his results are within the bounds of mathematical possibility, what would give me the authority to challenge them? I would challenge them if they were next to mathematically impossible, but from what I can tell, they're not.

I do not speak for Rob but I did interview him. And when I read something here that relates to the information he gave me in my interviews I will comment.

In addition to my videos there are lengthy articles on my website which contain additional information. Rob also wrote other articles which were not edited by me that appear on my website. These articles and videos should stop the false statements that are continually made here by his critics. But his critics don't care to find out the truth.

The truth is already known. By the way, millionaires do not have rundown apartment complexes chasing them around the country for unpaid rent while they survive in a camper mooching electricity and internet.