Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
Dear kewlj chicken: the reason I need your demonstration is that I am yet to find a casino where the tables are close enough or angled properly so you can get any kind of view of cards on the neighboring table unless you're about eight feet tall or have xray vision. I asked other forum members to go to a casino and sit in the MIDDLE seat as you told me to do and try this for themselves. No one has reported that they did it. Redietz said he stood behind two tables to see the cards but standing between and behind tables doesn't let you play.

I tried to illustrate the problem by taking photos at one of the casinos you told me to check out but all you could say was that my photos were blurry. So I invite anyone else to show their photos.

I do not know of a casino where I could sit in a middle seat and would give me the proper angle to look to my right or to my left to see other cards in play.

Not only that there are other problems including the timing of when cards are dealt, when it's your turn to act, whether there are other players blocking your view.

What Redietz did, standing, is not what a player could do.

So I'm still open to the idea. Meet me at the blackjack pit of your choice kewlj and when in the middle seat OF AN EMPTY TABLE tell me the cards in play at the next table. There will be no casino personnel to question what you're doing. It would be just two guys sitting at a table.

Now for those who haven't followed this discussion, after your initial claim you backed off a bit to say you might miss some cards. Then you said you didn't have to see the missing cards to have a workable count.

I'd like to see just how many cards you do see or miss.

I don't know the background to this... But yes... You can do this...

You do not need to see the entire card. You only need to see if it is a face card, ace, or more than a few pips (the number of clubs, diamonds, hearts, spades). You can definitely see the cards at the table next to you. You only need to be able to make out a tiny portion of a card to tell what it is. This is why I do not understand why if you do play poker (which you don't know how to do) you must sit next to or directly infront of the dealer to see the cards. You can not take photos like this from a cell phone, (especially your antiquated one)((and I gave you a brand new Galaxy S8 which you neglected to use)). The lens perspective is very different from the human eye so a photo is not going to be what you see.