RS__ I define +EV differently than you and the others. You and the others use it so loosely it doesn't matter if you win or lose. That's hilarious. It's also sick.

Somewhere along the way all of you casino math geniuses got bamboozled.

It's not about +EV but it is about actual profit and control of your money. I'm tired of the debate. I give up. Use whatever terminology you want.