Hatred on this Forum

[kewlJ]

BJTF once had so many bullshitters it makes a person begin to question the validation of Norm's products. Is that whacked too? I must give KJ credit as he has a handle on those guys.

I think I do have a pretty good BS detector. But you know what....I rarely call people out on it. Surely everyone has heard me say "It doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". Well, I identify many members of various sites that I believe "are just talking" (full of shit), but I rarely call people out on it because that is not my job. And anyone coming to these sites has to take some of that responsibility to figure out who is legit and knows what they are talking about.

But there have been 3 instances that I have called out members as 'frauds' because their stories and bullshit were so elaborate, they served to easily mislead players and other members. This Rob Singer on this site is the 3rd of these. The first was T3, who much like Singer, used fancy phrases and alternative math, to muddy the waters just enough that it ropes in unsuspecting players and members. When you see that happening, I believe legitimate AP's have not only a right, but a responsibility to call out "bullshit".

And me doing so, resulted in my banning at a blackjack site and by extension at WoV. AND I would do it again under those circumstances. The reason I would do it again, is because of the second case. The members handle is Flash, later changed to ZenMaster Flash. He claims to be a 20 year professional blackjack player, but that is not true. He has played blackjack, maybe at an advantage....maybe not, plus many other casino games, craps, roulette, horseracing, sportsbetting….all as a losing player, for 20+ years since his retirement from his fulltime career.

So he claims to be a 20+ year professional player and charges new player to mentor them. Lots of people have done this over the years. Flash sort of follows in the steps of Lawrence Revere, who as he was teaching players for a fee, used to remove cards from the deck (just as the casinos of his time did) so the players needed more training and would come back for more paid lessons. Flash did this by means of misinformation, that only the count that he was teaching was capable of showing a profit.

So anyway, I ignored Flashes scam and only mildly called him out, partially because of the consequences of calling out the first guy. I ignored it even after several new young players that had "trained" with Flash were so screwed up and had lost so much that they went to an acquaintance...a known successful worldwide player, who had to completely re-train them.

And then the story broke about Flash's robbery. Flash had convinced several of his trainees to combine bankrolls and partner with him. And low and behold, Flash was robbed of this substantial bankroll. Friends that know the situation are certain Flash lost the bankroll playing craps and covered it up with the robbery. Shades of Wizard of nothing. Not the same scam, but on the same criminality, preditory level. So like I said, legitimate players have not only a right, but a responsibility to call out the worst of this shit.