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[Rob.Singer]

KJ. I set my son up in biz a few years ago. Gave him my truck and spent a month helping him launch. As I told him, sometimes success comes from what you don't do. It's like a bottleneck. He's doing great but now he spends about as much time in customer service and he does selling. Thus his growth has become stagnent. There are certain clients that drain a person. In order to maximize growth he needs to recognize that client and walk away or not get involved in the first place. As he puts it "Dad, you're addicted to efficiency." That may be but I never much liked working for free or pennies.

I see many of the same qualities in you. You are young amibtious and setting the world on fire. But man, if you could just learn to duck. I'd say your growth from a time standpoint is close to the max. No? As you "accumulate growth" you will also "gain attention."

My rule of thumb is table minimum. If you're playing $25 tables you should be making $25k a year. If not, there is something wrong in your game. So, if $100K is the goal? Play $100 tables. The further you go up the ladder the more difficult it is to play within casino tolerance.

Moses, I'd like an honest answer. Kew claims to be able to count two tables simultaneously, including the one he's playing at. I rejected that type of ability for multiple sensible reasons, and the result was him and his mob here then reducing this "ability" (having no other obvious choice) to "well....what I mean is the count doesn't really have to be THAT accurate!" Which, naturally, is a very stupid response. Imagine playing at a table where you don't have a good beat on the count, yet you bet as if you do. Or, imagine jumping out of your chair and into one at the next table, just to get involved in an inaccurate count. Makes no sense.

I brought this "ability" to the attn. of a friend of mine last week who happens to be Dir. of Casino Operations for the Peppermill chain of casinos. He took the time to first perform examples of sitting at two side-by-side tables that were not in use. He wears glasses and I don't. The only way we could distinguish between the cards other than face cards, was if the card was held upright and still directly facing us on the closest 1/3 of the table. And this was without distractions, people in the way, cards being flat on the table, or any time restrictions.

He also has explained to and showed me the computerized system they and many casinos use to supplement "eyes" to counter counters. He said in many instances, counters are recognized--and tossed--with their info (and soon facial recognition software will be in all casinos) being shared at least statewide.

I have no doubt that counting two tables is another silly myth. Sounds good on internet forums, but in actual casino settings, casino managers don't care a bit about it because it's irrelevant. And they tell me teams who think they can count and alert these days get tossed even faster.

So that leaves us with the tiny edge associated with counting. What's the secret....how does someone consistently defeat systems in place that I'm told cannot be defeated on a regular basis, no matter where or how many casinos are on a player's docket?