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[Rob.Singer]

Oh no, sling. Please don't fall for that myth about hesitations. Many truthful articles are available about that hesitation. It's nothing more than a routine pause. You saw the hesitation before a royal, and I see it all the time sometimes when I'm getting junk or a pair or better. That hesitation has nothing to do with the computer thinking "it's time to pay" or "it's time not to pay."

Of course you're probably right. It's certainly a noticeable " glitch", if you will, and the points seem to start tallying even before the hand completely fills. But more to the point are the days of seeming bias versus periods of success.

It's not a glitch and is on every machine. It's the counter resetting.

What counter resets? The machine I had for testing did that slight pause once every 80 hands. None of the line items in the counter menus changed, or "reset".

[Bill Yung]

Right or wrong, I welcome all the criticism I can get: the more mistakes, the more right answers. Even if it's only about me "arguing" with me. A fun way to walk through life.

You wouldn't want to end up on an dead-end egg-shell forum talking to yourself through others, not having grown up even this much. You only have to calmly inform the Wizard that he's no genius to get "nuked" from there. He is a true loser. Sorry, not so much fun. A little money, maybe, if you ever see it.

This is probably why I'm a nut job- observing the hands/deals and watching over time how they seem to correlate with the possibility of programming a machine to simulate randomness yet control pay outs so that the correct percentages fall within regulations. I hadn't seen it in a long time, but two months ago as I hit the deal button to start a new hand, there was a perceptible hesitation as a Royal was dealt to me.

Nice segue back to reality.

[AxelWolf]

It has something to do with it dumping the memory of the last block of hand's.

Rob do you still have that machine? I would be willing to bet it didn't happen every 80 hands like you are claiming.

[MaxPen]

My understanding is that it is the cache memory clearing.

[AxelWolf]

But it's amazing how some people will associate it with some type of glitch that has to do with winning or losing. Rob has probably used it to help con his students(all 3).

[slingshot]

But it's amazing how some people will associate it with some type of glitch that has to do with winning or losing. Rob has probably used it to help con his students(all 3).

Well, I don't know what happened to my reply. I am well aware that good card selection and good luck are the keys to winning,- no con there. I'm just surprised I remembered the 3 instances over 10 years. Just observing as in the case of what generally happens in a session where flushes,straights,and full houses don't fill.

[jbjb]

But it's amazing how some people will associate it with some type of glitch that has to do with winning or losing. Rob has probably used it to help con his students(all 3).

Well, I don't know what happened to my reply. I am well aware that good card selection and good luck are the keys to winning,- no con there. I'm just surprised I remembered the 3 instances over 10 years. Just observing as in the case of what generally happens in a session where flushes,straights,and full houses don't fill.

They didn't fill because you stopped the shuffling at the wrong times. Should've pressed the draw button at a different time.

[Rob.Singer]

Notice how axel the wannabee know-it-all uses guessing and assertions to try and offset another fact I presented.

The new machine I had was still at Aliante when I was there earlier this year. I have no idea why it pauses (and yes, every 80 hands although some of the pauses were shorter than others) but I would be inclined to believe in the cache memory clearing theory before trying to explain it as "the dumping of memory after the last block of hands" (not "hand's" axel....as I said, you graduated in mickey's class). These machines only allow you to go back and view the last ten hands, but the memory is never "dumped". I don't really know why they pause. It wasn't the reason I tested it.

But I know a dummy when it makes an appearance.

[jbjb]

Notice how axel the wannabee know-it-all uses guessing and assertions to try and offset another fact I presented.

The new machine I had was still at Aliante when I was there earlier this year. I have no idea why it pauses (and yes, every 80 hands although some of the pauses were shorter than others) but I would be inclined to believe in the cache memory clearing theory before trying to explain it as "the dumping of memory after the last block of hands" (not "hand's" axel....as I said, you graduated in mickey's class). These machines only allow you to go back and view the last ten hands, but the memory is never "dumped". I don't really know why they pause. It wasn't the reason I tested it.

But I know a dummy when it makes an appearance.

It's nothing but a hand/spin counter. Doesn't matter if its 80, 100, or 1000, the pause is nothing more than this counter resetting. Slot machines have the exact same thing. Wise up!

[slingshot]

But it's amazing how some people will associate it with some type of glitch that has to do with winning or losing. Rob has probably used it to help con his students(all 3).

Well, I don't know what happened to my reply. I am well aware that good card selection and good luck are the keys to winning,- no con there. I'm just surprised I remembered the 3 instances over 10 years. Just observing as in the case of what generally happens in a session where flushes,straights,and full houses don't fill.

They didn't fill because you stopped the shuffling at the wrong times. Should've pressed the draw button at a different time.

Bbbb-bbut I touched the building outside and peed in the last stall before playing.

[mickeycrimm]

Right or wrong, I welcome all the criticism I can get: the more mistakes, the more right answers. Even if it's only about me "arguing" with me. A fun way to walk through life.

You wouldn't want to end up on an dead-end egg-shell forum talking to yourself through others, not having grown up even this much. You only have to calmly inform the Wizard that he's no genius to get "nuked" from there. He is a true loser. Sorry, not so much fun. A little money, maybe, if you ever see it.

This is probably why I'm a nut job- observing the hands/deals and watching over time how they seem to correlate with the possibility of programming a machine to simulate randomness yet control pay outs so that the correct percentages fall within regulations. I hadn't seen it in a long time, but two months ago as I hit the deal button to start a new hand, there was a perceptible hesitation as a Royal was dealt to me.

"Randomness" and "controlled payouts" are two terms that don't belong together. If it's random the payouts aren't controlled. If payouts are controlled it's not random.

[AxelWolf]

Notice how axel the wannabee know-it-all uses guessing and assertions to try and offset another fact I presented.

The new machine I had was still at Aliante when I was there earlier this year. I have no idea why it pauses (and yes, every 80 hands although some of the pauses were shorter than others) but I would be inclined to believe in the cache memory clearing theory before trying to explain it as "the dumping of memory after the last block of hands" (not "hand's" axel....as I said, you graduated in mickey's class). These machines only allow you to go back and view the last ten hands, but the memory is never "dumped". I don't really know why they pause. It wasn't the reason I tested it.

But I know a dummy when it makes an appearance.

Since you claim to be a VP expert you should know when it pause. I can tell you exactly when a VP machine is going to pause after the first time.

[monet]

I belong to this forum : https://www.civfanatics.com/

It is nowhere near as toxic as this Forum or WoV.

Gambling Forums are much more personal.

[Rob.Singer]

Notice how axel the wannabee know-it-all uses guessing and assertions to try and offset another fact I presented.

The new machine I had was still at Aliante when I was there earlier this year. I have no idea why it pauses (and yes, every 80 hands although some of the pauses were shorter than others) but I would be inclined to believe in the cache memory clearing theory before trying to explain it as "the dumping of memory after the last block of hands" (not "hand's" axel....as I said, you graduated in mickey's class). These machines only allow you to go back and view the last ten hands, but the memory is never "dumped". I don't really know why they pause. It wasn't the reason I tested it.

But I know a dummy when it makes an appearance.

Since you claim to be a VP expert you should know when it pause. I can tell you exactly when a VP machine is going to pause after the first time.

"when it pause"?

Why would you care when there's a pause---you think it's getting ready to go on a losing streak or hit a big winner? Is that what you people are about?

The pause is meaningless, unless of course you're an anxious AP who just can't wait for that next serving of intermittent satisfaction. Strong vp players concentrate on their play, not on theories holding no added value.

[jbjb]

Notice how axel the wannabee know-it-all uses guessing and assertions to try and offset another fact I presented.

The new machine I had was still at Aliante when I was there earlier this year. I have no idea why it pauses (and yes, every 80 hands although some of the pauses were shorter than others) but I would be inclined to believe in the cache memory clearing theory before trying to explain it as "the dumping of memory after the last block of hands" (not "hand's" axel....as I said, you graduated in mickey's class). These machines only allow you to go back and view the last ten hands, but the memory is never "dumped". I don't really know why they pause. It wasn't the reason I tested it.

But I know a dummy when it makes an appearance.

Since you claim to be a VP expert you should know when it pause. I can tell you exactly when a VP machine is going to pause after the first time.

"when it pause"?

Why would you care when there's a pause---you think it's getting ready to go on a losing streak or hit a big winner? Is that what you people are about?

The pause is meaningless, unless of course you're an anxious AP who just can't wait for that next serving of intermittent satisfaction. Strong vp players concentrate on their play, not on theories holding no added value.

The bolded part is all that matters. But Sling, for some reason, thought it had to do with him being dealt a royal. Reality is, it didn't. And as you said, it's meaningless. Even to AP's.

[The Boz]

I belong to this forum : https://www.civfanatics.com/

It is nowhere near as toxic as this Forum or WoV.

Gambling Forums are much more personal.

And people like you make it personal. Your meltdown on WoV is legendary.

Perhaps you can find suckers to fleece over there. After all, you’re a self admitted bad dude. Remember when you said you could have robbed a drunken Axel? Who even thinks like that? I like to think even the people I disagree with on here would make sure a drunken person, even if we just met them, would make it home OK. A few would say, fuck them, they created the situation. But only a rare few, the worst of the worst, would see it as an opportunity to rob them. And then consider themselves decent for not doing it. And if the few thousands, or whatever Axel had on him makes a difference, you are more of a degenerate then you come off as.

I truly believe robbing someone would have never have entered Alan, Singer or even Yungs mind. They may be full of shit with their posts, but don’t think like you do.

Toxic? Lol.

[monet]

I belong to this forum : https://www.civfanatics.com/

It is nowhere near as toxic as this Forum or WoV.

Gambling Forums are much more personal.

And people like you make it personal. Your meltdown on WoV is legendary.

Perhaps you can find suckers to fleece over there. After all, you’re a self admitted bad dude. Remember when you said you could have robbed a drunken Axel? Who even thinks like that? I like to think even the people I disagree with on here would make sure a drunken person, even if we just met them, would make it home OK. A few would say, fuck them, they created the situation. But only a rare few, the worst of the worst, would see it as an opportunity to rob them. And then consider themselves decent for not doing it. And if the few thousands, or whatever Axel had on him makes a difference, you are more of a degenerate then you come off as.

I truly believe robbing someone would have never have entered Alan, Singer or even Yungs mind. They may be full of shit with their posts, but don’t think like you do.

Toxic? Lol.

You seem to be a wealth of knowledge and an all around nice guy.
It is a pleasure reading your comments.
Not only on WoV but over here as well.

I make mistakes in life, on WoV, on this Website and I apologize that I have made mistakes in the past.

[Bill Yung]

I belong to this forum : https://www.civfanatics.com/

It is nowhere near as toxic as this Forum or WoV.

Gambling Forums are much more personal.

And people like you make it personal. Your meltdown on WoV is legendary.

Perhaps you can find suckers to fleece over there. After all, you’re a self admitted bad dude. Remember when you said you could have robbed a drunken Axel? Who even thinks like that? I like to think even the people I disagree with on here would make sure a drunken person, even if we just met them, would make it home OK. A few would say, fuck them, they created the situation. But only a rare few, the worst of the worst, would see it as an opportunity to rob them. And then consider themselves decent for not doing it. And if the few thousands, or whatever Axel had on him makes a difference, you are more of a degenerate then you come off as.

I truly believe robbing someone would have never have entered Alan, Singer or even Yungs mind. They may be full of shit with their posts, but don’t think like you do.

Toxic? Lol.

You seem to be a wealth of knowledge and an all around nice guy.
It is a pleasure reading your comments.
Not only on WoV but over here as well.

I make mistakes in life, on WoV, on this Website and I apologize that I have made mistakes in the past.

Hey, bullshit artist Billy Ung here.

I stand by my initial take on the AP's: "psychos". Sorry, Sling, "variants" just doesn't get it.

Well, at least we know the reason that Dan didn't yet ban the Boz. He's quite a sideshow.

[Bill Yung]

Nothing legendary on any of Shackleford's sites, nor will there ever be. Just a bunch of "pumpkins" who wait for a royal carriage that doesn't pass that way. Holy darn, who do I thank for not being a gambler?

[Rob.Singer]

Since you claim to be a VP expert you should know when it pause. I can tell you exactly when a VP machine is going to pause after the first time.

"when it pause"?

Why would you care when there's a pause---you think it's getting ready to go on a losing streak or hit a big winner? Is that what you people are about?

The pause is meaningless, unless of course you're an anxious AP who just can't wait for that next serving of intermittent satisfaction. Strong vp players concentrate on their play, not on theories holding no added value.

The bolded part is all that matters. But Sling, for some reason, thought it had to do with him being dealt a royal. Reality is, it didn't. And as you said, it's meaningless. Even to AP's.

Kew thinks accumulating EV has everything to do with knowing he'll be a winner by the end of the year. IE, he believes he's due.

That holds the same amount of holy water as thinking the machine pause also has some sort of meaning.