Question for APs

[mickeycrimm]

Question Mickey?

Does that casino with the "photo ID required Double deck" have other blackjack games, like 6 decks where they don't require Photo ID?

And people wonder why I often state that double deck blackjack is very often a "counter trap". This particular game looks like it is double deck dealt from a shoe, meaning cards are face up (no player touching). This is unusual for double deck (El Cortez style). When places are doing this is it usually because they want surveillance above to be able to clearly see all the cards to know if players are moving money with the count. Counter trap!

I pirated the picture off the internet so I have no idea where it's at.

[mickeycrimm]

I have losing sessions but my winning sessions out run the losers.

the strategy was specifically designed for losing sessions, large or not, to be obliterated by the larger and sometimes much larger winning sessions.

The difference is I'm working big edges, 10% to 20% depending on the game. I don't have to get lucky with a big hit on the end. My losing plays are usually caused by getting stretched out on the number of games. There's an average cost and an average payoff. If the frequency is 200 then through a few dozen plays it will average that....but on an individual play I sometimes get stretched out to 900 or 1000 spins on a 200 frequency. Per the average cost per spin those plays are usually losers. But the flip side is I also sit down and snap it off in just a few spins. It's called variance.

Anyways, I don't have to get lucky to win. I have an edge. Someone using a marty on negative expectation video poker is dependent on luck.

[coach belly]

There's an average cost and an average payoff.

Didn't Mission explain something similar, that the math behind Singer's system showed that it's favored to win 8 out of 10 sessions?

I'm not sure if his explanation mentioned luck, I've read plenty of times right here on this forum that there's no such thing as luck.

[Bill Yung]

Im curious. What is it you're doing that is setting the world on fire? I mean besides sitting on your throne in judgement of others.

It's telling that you think it's about "setting the world on fire". The best way to find oneself isn't to stand too far back or ahead in the crowd.

It's funny too, how you and Redietz see me as definitely "judging" every little thing to the extreme, some things to do with the actual math of gambling, but it's an entirely different thing when the "resident" AP's mercilessly, albeit idiotically, go after Alan's ethnicity, core values, and right to gamble as he chooses.

As far as yours and Redietz's vague attempt to say we are all the same insofar as we all gamble in one way or another, or all that other malarky about our meaningless existence, well, perhaps, the people who don't gamble are really just a balanced mixed of all the types that do.

I just remember going to my in-laws years ago. They were sitting in their recliners talking shit on everyone and then wondering why no one ever came to see them. You seem to have ALL the answers. Thought maybe you'd clue me in. I guess your life is REALLY exciting. NO?

You know, I'm happy with the life I have. Most people work their whole lives to get out of the "rat race", just for some peace and quiet. The sad thing is that they end up right back in it. People make too much trouble for themselves, even after they are free of their working obligations to others.

They still don't or can't stop to ask themselves are they comfortable in and with their lives. Only we, ourselves can answer this. But our fast-paced Western society just isn't set up to think this way, despite our society being more about the individual than the group. Certainly, happiness is the last thing you will find anyone talk about on a gambling forum. The same as no one there will talk about people who don't gamble, and, what makes them tick. They feel that they have to talk about and do what the other posters are.

More often than not, what happens, from time to time, someone new will show a bit of spirited or free thinking, without concern for "how it looks", only to be meet with immediate howls of this and that. The old line, "When one man feels, society reels." You just have to be secure enough in your own skin to thus continually venture forth.

So, the moral of the story is that if we let others do the judging for us, it comes with a very steep price. Why don't some people want us to judge others? Most therapists, I think, will agree that judging others is associated with some sort mental tension. The real crux of this is, I bet, that it's the people who are hiding something, etc, that don't want anyone to judge also them. When someone asks you to keep a secret, it's not for your benefit, but often to your detriment. It takes practice and experience, just like everything else.

To better answer your question about me, I'm happier than a pig in the you know what that I don't have to rub two seconds together in any dumb casino. Just a bunch of people who think that the other guy knows the reason that they are all hanging around one, and have to talk about it with strangers.

[kewlJ]

OK, here's the thing. Several of you, Singer, and blackhole, and now this bill yung, swear that you are happy with your position in life, retired, enjoying the fruits of retirement and good retirement planning. Holiday vacations with the family and this and that.

But yet these are the same individuals who spend a good deal of their free time, their retirement time, on this site, judging, belittling and attacking others. If your life is really so great, get out there and enjoy it and stop judging and worrying about everyone else.

(Alan, you are excluded from this one, because I haven't heard you repeatedly tell us how great your life is while at the same time, judging and belittling everyone else....as a matter of fact, sounds like you might still be working)

[slingshot]

It's telling that you think it's about "setting the world on fire". The best way to find oneself isn't to stand too far back or ahead in the crowd.

It's funny too, how you and Redietz see me as definitely "judging" every little thing to the extreme, some things to do with the actual math of gambling, but it's an entirely different thing when the "resident" AP's mercilessly, albeit idiotically, go after Alan's ethnicity, core values, and right to gamble as he chooses.

As far as yours and Redietz's vague attempt to say we are all the same insofar as we all gamble in one way or another, or all that other malarky about our meaningless existence, well, perhaps, the people who don't gamble are really just a balanced mixed of all the types that do.

I just remember going to my in-laws years ago. They were sitting in their recliners talking shit on everyone and then wondering why no one ever came to see them. You seem to have ALL the answers. Thought maybe you'd clue me in. I guess your life is REALLY exciting. NO?

You know, I'm happy with the life I have. Most people work their whole lives to get out of the "rat race", just for some peace and quiet. The sad thing is that they end up right back in it. People make too much trouble for themselves, even after they are free of their working obligations to others.

They still don't or can't stop to ask themselves are they comfortable in and with their lives. Only we, ourselves can answer this. But our fast-paced Western society just isn't set up to think this way, despite our society being more about the individual than the group. Certainly, happiness is the last thing you will find anyone talk about on a gambling forum. The same as no one there will talk about people who don't gamble, and, what makes them tick. They feel that they have to talk about and do what the other posters are.

More often than not, what happens, from time to time, someone new will show a bit of spirited or free thinking, without concern for "how it looks", only to be meet with immediate howls of this and that. The old line, "When one man feels, society reels." You just have to be secure enough in your own skin to thus continually venture forth.

So, the moral of the story is that if we let others do the judging for us, it comes with a very steep price. Why don't some people want us to judge others? Most therapists, I think, will agree that judging others is associated with some sort mental tension. The real crux of this is, I bet, that it's the people who are hiding something, etc, that don't want anyone to judge also them. When someone asks you to keep a secret, it's not for your benefit, but often to your detriment. It takes practice and experience, just like everything else.

To better answer your question about me, I'm happier than a pig in the you know what that I don't have to rub two seconds together in any dumb casino. Just a bunch of people who think that the other guy knows the reason that they are all hanging around one, and have to talk about it with strangers.

Of course, I have no issue with you. Just wondering. I love to shoot slingshots, hence my name and a forum I belong to. I have been a treasure hunter for over forty years and post on three different metal detecting forums. I was and avid golfer and played poker with the guys at the clubhouse-small stakes. I played Canasta and 42 with my grandparents/relatives so when I found out about VP I was instantly captivated and read every book and practiced with computer programs. Of course everyone knows Rob captivated my attention. My point is WHY would you NOT gamble yet have interest in a gambling forum? Just curious- no ulterior motive.

[Moses]

You know, I'm happy with the life I have. Most people work their whole lives to get out of the "rat race", just for some peace and quiet. The sad thing is that they end up right back in it. People make too much trouble for themselves, even after they are free of their working obligations to others..

I learned not to concern myself as to whether I'm happy or not. I figure it's best for me and others that I'm not pissed off.

They still don't or can't stop to ask themselves are they comfortable in and with their lives.

I've been uncomfortable in my own skin. Once you've been there, it's easy to see it in others.

So, the moral of the story is that if we let others do the judging for us, it comes with a very steep price. Why don't some people want us to judge others? Most therapists, I think, will agree that judging others is associated with some sort mental tension. .

If that's the case, there are a lot of "religious" people filled with mental tension. Maybe they just need to have a glass of wine (whine) and relax. God doesn't really need their help. I'd rather see the knife coming at me than feel a sharp pain in my back. If it's someone thang? Then it is what it is. I don't have a problem until it bleeds over into my life.

When someone asks you to keep a secret, it's not for your benefit, but often to your detriment...

Secrets are for wimps who lack the courage to speak their mind or stand up for what they believe in. That's different than not saying anything to spare someone's feelings who "can't handle the truth."

To better answer your question about me, I'm happier than a pig in the you know what that I don't have to rub two seconds together in any dumb casino. Just a bunch of people who think that the other guy knows the reason that they are all hanging around one, and have to talk about it with strangers.

I disagree. I had a good time two nights this week at a casino. Watched the Warriors and the Lakers games side by side. Sat with a buddy and met some others around me. Last night I met a group of ladies who were Warrior fans, met a guy from Colorado that lives near my son, and his daughter went to the same college as me.

Even won the over/under bet as to when a guy would get 86ed. Hour and a half was way too high. I took the under and collected 45 minutes later. I've been bored to tears at some soup suppers I've attended.

Maybe these people who deemed themselves worthy to sit in judgement of others truly have lived a perfect life. Trouble is, they forgot to live life.

[MisterV]

People love to gamble.

Hell, didn't the Roman soldiers roll dem bones for christ's clothing when he was nailed to the cross?

[blackhole]

OK, here's the thing. Several of you, Singer, and blackhole, and now this bill yung, swear that you are happy with your position in life, retired, enjoying the fruits of retirement and good retirement planning. Holiday vacations with the family and this and that.

But yet these are the same individuals who spend a good deal of their free time, their retirement time, on this site, judging, belittling and attacking others. If your life is really so great, get out there and enjoy it and stop judging and worrying about everyone else.

(Alan, you are excluded from this one, because I haven't heard you repeatedly tell us how great your life is while at the same time, judging and belittling everyone else....as a matter of fact, sounds like you might still be working)

First of all, not sure how much time you think I’m spending here. I made 450 posts in 2 years, you made just short of 2,000 in the same time. You’re trying to convince everyone how your making a living playing BJ now for 15 years and making over a million dollars while remaining undetected. My posts and time here are mainly challenging these ridiculous claims being made, and having a lot of laughs. Most of the time I’m looking forward to the next pile of bullshit you alleged AP’s will throw against the wall to see what might stick.

My wife and I traveled all over the world while in our prime. We now have permanent options to reside where some would consider vacation locations. I can’t walk long distances any longer, and the whole traveling thing as become exhausting and played out. Besides, picking up grandchildren from school and babysitting is a full-time job with little time off.

Since you enjoy men’s genitalia, I doubt you understand the thrill of watching your children than grandchildren grow up in front of you. No vacation could ever compare to that thrill.

The best part at this stage of my life is even after having a ball pissing tons away in assorted casinos throughout my life, is knowing my children and grandchildren are guaranteed a safe and secure future.

Along with the joy of my boys looking like they’re on a path to blowing my achievements away, I consider I've lived the dream.

Don’t get to full of yourself Kiwlj. Reading your nonsense is nothing but a time killer for me with lots of laughs. Your posts are like reading comedian bits.

[Rob.Singer]

He doesn't like that we're normal people blackhole. These type of casino slugs cannot fathom that those of us who've had successful working lives continue to live very happily and comfortably into our retirement years. After all--what do these casino rats have to look forward to anyway? And with the diseases kew says he's been inflicted with at his claimed age, I know at least I will live past his glorious entrance into his grave. Plus, I have no short circuits inside my head like he does. That's a great big positive right there.

[jbjb]

In what dictionary does "successful" describe a bum with a huge bankruptcy and hides from creditors?

[Rob.Singer]

This is funny. But once I realize it's from a non-college educated moron it makes sense. Explain "huge bankruptcy". Now explain "two huge 401k's".

Oh wait....that doesn't fit the envy-driven agenda, so I guess we'll just ignore that one

But hold on--I just thought of a pertinent question to ask jbjb and anyone else who'd never be able to live if their real name's were known.
Would you consider someone who filed 3 (?) bankruptcies as being "unsuccessful" jbjb? IE....would an uneducated doofus such as yourself say Donald Trump weren't successful? Wouldya?

I attribute your incredible ignorance to your overall astonishing stupidity.

Wise up dopey.

[Moses]

My wife and I traveled all over the world while in our prime. We now have permanent options to reside where some would consider vacation locations. .

Damn. I was so close. But sometimes you have to play the hand you're dealt.

I can’t walk long distances any longer, and the whole traveling thing as become exhausting and played out.

Sorry to hear.

Besides, picking up grandchildren from school and babysitting is a full-time job with little time off.

LOL. Sounds like Coach and my Uncle. I doubt that is in the cards for me. But I enjoyed walking my lady friends 10 year old granddaughter to school the last 2 years. Kids are very honest. During all her parents divorce talk, they were going to hold her out of school for the rest of the year and then hold her back a year. I ask her the question "what do you want to do"? She looks at me kind of funny like she was never ask her opinion before. She says "I wanna go to school." I said, "I think we can make that happen." Sometimes the best joys in life are the ones we don't see coming.

The best part at this stage of my life is even after having a ball pissing tons away in assorted casinos throughout my life, is knowing my children and grandchildren are guaranteed a safe and secure future. Along with the joy of my boys looking like they’re on a path to blowing my achievements away, I consider I've lived the dream...

I was probably a better coach to my kids than a father. We used to go jogging. My words over the years went from "c'mon keep up" to "hey, wait up." All 3 of my kids make 6 figures today. So maybe I did okay. I was tough on them. But I figure the world is a tough place and the days of everyone praising the athlete will end. I think the most difficult task in being a parent was letting them go to become adults.

[The Boz]

This is funny. But once I realize it's from a non-college educated moron it makes sense. Explain "huge bankruptcy". Now explain "two huge 401k's".

Oh wait....that doesn't fit the envy-driven agenda, so I guess we'll just ignore that one

But hold on--I just thought of a pertinent question to ask jbjb and anyone else who'd never be able to live if their real name's were known.
Would you consider someone who filed 3 (?) bankruptcies as being "unsuccessful" jbjb? IE....would an uneducated doofus such as yourself say Donald Trump weren't successful? Wouldya?

I attribute your incredible ignorance to your overall astonishing stupidity.

Wise up dopey.

Comparing you to Trump is like comparing Alan to a casino.

Both depend on lowlifes like you to make their living.

Again, more things you and Alan have in common. A willingness to screw others over, including family members to support a habit.

Wise up idiot, Tahoe doesn’t want your black smog emitting 78 RV stinking up their parking lot. But they would love saps like you and Alan to walk through the door. Just park in Reno.

Wise up Deadbeat.

[Bill Yung]

That's different than not saying anything to spare someone's feelings who "can't handle the truth."

Who can't handle the truth? And who are you to decide that? Why put yourself in that spot, a slippery slope to nowhere?

I disagree. I had a good time two nights this week at a casino. Watched the Warriors and the Lakers games side by side. Sat with a buddy and met some others around me. Last night I met a group of ladies who were Warrior fans, met a guy from Colorado that lives near my son, and his daughter went to the same college as me.

Even won the over/under bet as to when a guy would get 86ed. Hour and a half was way too high. I took the under and collected 45 minutes later. I've been bored to tears at some soup suppers I've attended.

Maybe these people who deemed themselves worthy to sit in judgement of others truly have lived a perfect life. Trouble is, they forgot to live life.

Happiness is a function of the things you do? Some people like slingshots, some don't. Some things are non-starters. I just don't know the reason that people put up their lives across the internet. Better to deal in universal concepts, facts and, yes, theories, of which we can all gainfully partake.

[Bill Yung]

People love to gamble.

Hell, didn't the Roman soldiers roll dem bones for christ's clothing when he was nailed to the cross?

Love and gambling. That's a new one. I actually feel good about you going to the casino, smoking pot, all that high-end stereo stuff, and food, the time spent with the car. You deserve all that stuff, but I don't love that you do it.

[Bill Yung]

WHY would you NOT gamble yet have interest in a gambling forum? Just curious- no ulterior motive.

To turn that around, lots of things we wonder about like how people got along without the television a hundred years ago. But does anyone from the gambling forums wonder about how the people who don't go to casinos get along, without going? You'd think that were going so inherently a novelty or whatever of life, that even MrV would be inviting everyone to come along with him. "People love to gamble," after all. But he doesn't seem to do that.

[Bill Yung]

But yet these are the same individuals who spend a good deal of their free time, their retirement time, on this site, judging, belittling and attacking others. If your life is really so great, get out there and enjoy it and stop judging and worrying about everyone else.

Who proved or studied that forums are necessarily a bad thing? I know there are lots of studies that show these are addictive, an alpha-male thing. And that the internet tends to shorten our memories over time because we get into the habit of repeatedly looking up the same things instead of just remember them.

Yes, leave Alan out it. He didn't call you "a slice of gay bread ready for the toaster". Sorry, had to put it that way to make a point.

Yes, I judge people, and do just about everything else in its place. But I won't not tell you the truth.

[Moses]

That's different than not saying anything to spare someone's feelings who "can't handle the truth."

Who can't handle the truth? And who are you to decide that? Why put yourself in that spot, a slippery slope to nowhere?.

Okay. I will give an example.

These 3 young guys are sitting in the sportsbook a couple of weeks ago bullying everyone around them. The one old gent (probably 70) that I know is always wearing his Red Sox hat and never bothers anyone. The AL playoffs were on and this kid was talking about who should be MVP. My understanding is that particular player wasn't even playing. The team he played on was already eliminated. All the Red Sox guy said was "you must not follow baseball very much." This kid jumped out of his chair and beat the soup out of the guy. Ambulance had to come and take him out on a stretcher.

THAT'S an example of someone who can't handle the truth and a guy who would have been better served by keeping quiet. Understand I'm not saying it's right. Nothing could be more fucked up IMO. But YOU asked for an example.

[mickeycrimm]

Who can't handle the truth? And who are you to decide that? Why put yourself in that spot, a slippery slope to nowhere?.

Dan, how much longer do we have to put up with this retarded idiot?