When do "must hit" slots really hit?

[The Boz]

Mickey, you give away too much information between the lines.

If you were making so much money doing what you claim to be doing, and the machines were so available, then you would be starting at much higher numbers than the rest.

As it is, these sorts of games still seem to require a lot of luck, even when you can find a machine to play, when you happen to find one that's open just like any other "ploppie". Perhaps, you are a "ploppie" but don't know it?

It's funny you not telling anyone here about how long one must wait for one of those machines to "payoff". Most of us had already figured that out.

What the fuck are you even saying here? He gives his starting numbers that remove “luck” from the equation. He has no good reason to help others, but he does. Why would he walk away from a profitable machine to risk letting it go higher and miss out of a profit? Makes no sense.

Payoff? He tells everyone the machines in question won’t payoff until right before the top.

Your hatred of the effort Mick and others put in makes no sense. It’s a job like many others. And some find ways to be the best at their job. It’s takes hard work, intellect and common sense, things you just can’t teach.

I can't disagree with how people who find and play these machines can probably make a profit. But exactly how often can these "ready to pay off" machines be found? And how would anyone know whether the last 50c of meter movement is going to require 10,000 credits of play to hit or not? Didn't I read in this thread that the movement is not linear?

Only on the WMS machines where the meter only moves after a win. The others that I know of are a set movement based on coin in. Yes it does take time and money to determine that rate, and it can have different settings on the same machine in different local actions. It really is a simple math game. And Mickey used a higher than average hold of 20% on the base game to be safe and allow for a bad run.

As for how often you find these games, if they are part of an overall strategy and you have other options in a casino it’s a nice extra. Sitting around watching a few machines, probably not so much.

And the more information like this is being discussed, the more people out there looking for them. The problem is many “think” they have an advantage when they don’t, and they don’t have the bankroll. A little knowledge can be very dangerous.