Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
I think the hustlers have ruined it for the quiet, non-bothersome slot APs.

If it were just a few slot APs quietly scrolling through machines to find +EV spots, the casino wouldn't be thrilled, but they would probably let it slide.

The problem is that the hustlers aren't content just to look for those opportunities, and they hassle anyone they can find to switch to different machines or run up meters for them.

I can't tell you how many times I've been bothered by hustlers in the past year when simply trying to run video poker or some other machine.

I think the casinos are learning that the AP community isn't that large, and that word will quickly get around if they start dropping the hammer on people.
Dan hit it on the head. I’ve posted I’ve observed more wannabe AP’s who are really just degenerates in the past few months for whatever reason. A little knowledge is dangerous and these guys are full of it. But it’s by no means a bash on legitimate AP’s who would never stoop to these tricks.

Every business or profession has its share of losers that are an embarrassment to others. Mr V will tell you there are lawyers who are an embarrassment to the profession. Dan will surely admit there are professional poker players who are low lives. You certainly can’t judge every parent or retiree by Alan’s actions.

The problem is you have junkies or others desperate for money they bother valid casino customers playing machines they want. And no business wants to deal with legitimate customers complaining about being bothered. A little research and the casino is determining what the issue, and machines in questions are.

I’m sure Mickey has seen guys like this since his early AP days in Laughlin, there just seems to be more lately. The people I have met or talked to off line don’t go for garbage like this and have never given me a reason to believe they are not trustworthy. And they all make a good living playing the game without resorting to stuff like this. They are in it for the long haul and drawing attention is not good for business.

So yes Alan, they are AP’s out there and there are shitty wannabe AP’s out there ruining it for others.