Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
Sorry KJ, you might be right. It could've been Philadelphia. I did start the post off with I think.

My suspicions of you being a queer and having some wires crossed trying to justify your stupidity are no different then you suspicions of me Quote: "Damn your a coward, low life, piece of shit."

On another note how do you feel about my previous suggestion below. Convince your new pal Alan to do it. What do you think?


Since KJ along with several other Vegas AP’s are working Vegas casinos for a living and who would need to remain anonymous, we need to find a person there who is willing to take this to the next level.

I think Alan a resident, known gambler to the casinos, career investigator reporter would fit this setting perfectly. He should contact the NGC, local mayor, senator, congressmen, then firstly direct them all to this person’s posts claiming to be a cheating dealer for Vegas casinos.

Just put Einstein Mickey’s opinion into action. Quote: “My opinion is NGC should be informed of the possibility. NGC should start an undercover investigation to see if it is going on and how prevalent it is. And perpetrators should be punished. They need to send a big message that it won't be tolerated.”

If NGC takes no action is the reason you contacted elected officials. One of them should be willing to take the baton and run with it. If still no response then last resort would be to try contacting Harry Reid. I’m sure he still has connections with the Clinton Mafia. Maybe if we all get together and make a donation to one of their charities, we could then convince them into getting to the bottom of this.

I lived in Philadelphia, but only as an adult. My stepfather never lived in Philadelphia that I am aware of. Swing and a miss. Strike two.


You deserve no respectful from me....nothing! But I will take the high road and respond respectfully.

You are correct about why I refused to get involve when I brought this ASM issue to light last year. There is absolutely no upside for me getting involved and being the face of such a challenge or even bringing such a case to gaming. That would be a losing proposition for an active players. There was discussion of Shackleford being that "front guy" but by the time he decided to take a look at the situation, the specific situation had dissolved....machines had been pulled from the floor.

I am not sure I am in favor of that path anyway. I mean this isn't exactly countermeasures, it's cheating. But there are some similarities to countermeasures cases in that if through courts or some legal authority like a gaming commission you force the casino industry to do this or that, something they don't want to do, the result can be even worse.

Case in point: Ken Uston and Atlantic City. Kenny "won" vs Atlantic City, making it so AC could not bar players. The result, now 40 years of almost unplayable games in Atlantic City.

In Nevada we (AP's, especially card counter AP's) play the cat and mouse game. And that is not a bad solution. You learn to play that game. You learn what is and isn't tolerated. (that has been my whole approach). Essentially, you learn to co-exist. Rocking the boat and forcing change will only result in a counter action from casinos, the result of which likely will be worse.

But there is a problem and that is "technology". New technology is going to keep appearing that allows or aids the casino industry to cross the line. If you do nothing, they will cross the line a little bit here, a little more there, and even more next time. So I don't honestly know what the answer is.