Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
Zenzone: Zenzone originated from the old blackjackinfo. It was a subsection where players could post all of the garbage, without it clogging up the main forum. Maybe that is what made blackjackinfo work. When blackjackinfo shut down, Ken Smith sold off zenzone (or maybe just gave it) to a member known as Zengrifter, another longterm member of the community, who has a long history with Norm (QFIT). Zengrifter as everyone expected was the very first person Norm banned at BJTF, breaking his promise not to retaliate against those he had previous issues with.

So some of us that got banned by Norm showed up at Zenzone to post a bit. There was a little bit of blackjack discussion, but mostly just a place to vent about Norm.
It’s interesting to see what’s been going on at blackjack the forum lately. Zenzone and Moses have been getting so much press, Norm recently asked his minions to please stop discussions about ZZ. This is interesting in light of Norm in the past discussing (really making disparaging comments) about ZZ on his forum. I remember him calling it an anti-Semitic site.

It looks like people on BJTF have been lurking on this forum and Zenzone and then feeding off it. Probably because nothing much interesting is going on over there now...and they always need someone to attack.

Even though Moses has been banned from BJTF, he appears to be somewhat controlling the narrative on that forum recently. That’s quite a skill set.

As far as Norm, he does seem to be selective in how he enforces his own rules. With his favorites, he allows them to call people names and attack them without doing anything. If someone’s not his favorite, he puts them in “time out” (basically bans them for 3 days or some time interval). It reminds me of a kindergarten teacher and what she does to someone when they misbehave. Who knew these forums would be so much like kindergarten?