Originally Posted by Moses View Post
No need to cherry pick if you didn't keep bringing it up. Now Zee, for example, seems to travel to Vegas 3 or 4 times a year, driving 3 1/2 to 4 hours just to get to a table a couple of times a month. Yet, clears $35k annually, walking away from positive counts etc, etc. But you really work at it full time for just 3 times more? Zee never seems to lose even $5K on a trip. So Zee is a better player than you? Hmmm, my quarter says no. But his alleged profit per hand suggests differently.

Now, in a 5 week period in 2013, you made $110K. That's 220 more wins than losses at $500 per large bet...and you never got banned?

I've been playing since the mid 80s. Never saw a swing like that in either direction. But you always recover quickly. THAT's where the money could be made...setting on over/under on the number of weeks it will take until you fully recover.
Moses, you are cherry-picking Zee's numbers and results. I know because I used to communicate privately with Zee fairly regularly, offering advice and opinions, in part because I felt like he was getting a really hard time from some in the community that he just seemed to rub the wrong way (some of it he deserved).

So Zee may have had one year where he cleared 35k...was it last year? But that is not his average. He hasn't made 175k in his 5 years of play. He has probably made half of that, meaning his average yearly is 15-20k. That's a nice part-time/hobby income.

Zee's problem especially early on was just what jbjb said. At times Zee was afraid to throw out his max bet. That surely bought him some longevity as some casino personnel rightfully decided he wasn't playing a strong game.

You also can't really compare a part-time player who travels quite a bit to a full time player like me, who is lazy in the travel department and plays primarily one home rotation. It's just apples to oranges. If you want to think Zee is a better player than I, go for it. I am pretty damn sure you don't really think that, but are just trying to get a rise out of me.