Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post


you keep wrongly saying that the prosecution decided not to move forward. for the second time now - the Judge threw the case out.


from the article:

"Now-retired Will County Circuit Judge Daniel Rozak "dismissed all charges upon directed verdict motion of the plaintiffs at the close of the state's case without need of any of the plaintiffs' testimony or evidence,"

"Similar criminal charges were brought in the state of Mississippi - their respective criminal charges were also later thrown out in Mississippi."



you have an abiding belief in the honorability of casinos. this is total bullshit.
they don't behave skankily a very lot of the time. but they behave skankily a fair amount of the time.

This blog is dated, this guy has retired, but this guy who called himself The Bear had a blog about casinos behaving skankily

Read for yourself. Although I'm going to bet you're going to say "it doesn't meet your journalistic standards."


you're making comments about this stuff as if you know a lot about it. but you know very little.
casinos have backroomed and gotten physical with dozens of card counters totally unnecessarily; who were doing nothing illegal or immoral for that matter
everybody with half of a brain knows this

you keep saying you "suspect" these guys - good for you
I "suspect" you work or worked for a casino or are or were a shareholder
that is why I "suspect" that you are defending them


and don't bother telling me I'm wrong. I won't believe you. Just like you don't believe these guys.

Just like you, I'm sharing my opinion on a forum.


https://www.thebeargrowls.com/
Okay, where do I start. First off, I’ve never said I know a lot about this case. I’m just using some common sense. I did spend a little time researching it, basically reading some articles about it back in 2014, and saw that it was a little more complicated than the article in this thread stated.

Okay, I got it wrong. The judge threw it out, and it wasn’t the prosecutors dropping their charges. This makes my argument even stronger.

Most judges are very liberal, meaning they are pro-defendant and anti-business. That’s a fact. I hope we don’t end up debating this point. Judges throw out cases all the time. They release murders quite often based on some technicality. These murders then go out and murder more people. A judge throwing out a case doesn’t mean a lot to me. I know it means a lot to the press and to liberals.

Here is where I’m going to need you to put on your common sense thinking cap. Do you really think the prosecution’s case was as simple as these 5 people from Vegas won a lot of money so they must’ve cheated? I haven’t read the case briefing, but I’m pretty sure it’s a lot more complicated than that.

Look, it’s my nature to be skeptical. It’s how I’m wired. It’s hard for me to believe five people from Vegas just happen to come across a game in Illinois where they could win close to $1 million in about two weeks. I get most here believed this is what happened, and you’re entitled to your beliefs.

I think there’s a little more to it, that’s all. And from what I can gather, I expect they are guilty, but they got off. It happens all the time.

I appreciate the thoughtful debate on this topic and not resorting to name-calling. It’s usually on this site or any other. Thank you!
You expect they are guilty? Of what?
Of what they were charged for, manipulating a video keno machine. Read the article. The case was thrown out by a retired judge, who was probably a leftwing liberal nut. Most judges are.

Point being just because a case has been thrown out by some judge, it doesn’t mean the case doesn’t have merit, and these people aren’t guilty of what they are charged with.

This happens all the time. Judges throw out cases for a variety of different reasons. I didn’t look into why this judge threw out this case, but knowing judges, it was probably becsue of some technicality like the prosecutors got their evidence the wrong way.

I just used some common sense. I know the prosecutors didn’t bring charges against these 5 people just because they won some money. I expect they had some evidence they were cheating.

The majority here didn’t agree with me. That’s there right. What I’ve noticed is APs and gamblers are fairly gullible and beleieve anything they read. I don’t. I use some common sense.

This case doesn’t matter to me. Please believe what you want to.