Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
I realize there are a lot of side arguments here about ethics, advertising services, IRS regulations, carrying cash, etc., but after reading the additional info I still think these APs did nothing wrong playing a keno game with enhanced payoffs.

Now, if in the future it's determined they were fed inside info about machines that were "enhanced" outside of official channels then everything changes.

But as of now it looks to me that they found a machine with an enhanced pay table and played it. Again they are not responsible for filing CTRs and there's nothing illegal about betting less to avoid W2Gs and hand pays.
Just to be clear. The payoffs were five times what the paytable showed on the machine so these people knew these machines had a bug in them. They also knew had to trigger this bug so these machines paid off five times what they were supposed to.

They did not find some machines that had favorable pay tables...they found some machines that were basically spitting out cash, as long as you knew the magic code to make them do this.

I don’t see this as much different than an ATM accidentally spitting out more cash than is in your account. And this has happened. When it does, the person has to pay this money back to the bank. That person is not guilty of anything, but they also can’t keep the cash.

This is how the judge ruled in the Phil Ivey edge sorting case. He said Phil didn’t cheat, but he also couldn’t keep the money he won since he didn’t play the game in a fair way. I know some people don’t agree with this ruling. I’m just saying if you’d apply this same logic to this case, these people should be giving this money back to the casino. They didn’t cheat, but they also weren’t playing a fair game.