Originally Posted by
pahrump pete
redietz, A thoughtful post, here are a few thoughts back your way for what their worth.
"Originally, I believed "Singer" regarding his claims of winning".
This is a good place to start. You've been here a long time, you have a lot of history with "Singer" and his systems. I've just dropped in. I'm new. Am I allowed right here, right now to be where you once were? Doesn't seem like it.
" I have no idea if he won what he claims or not, and it's not terribly important to me."
Yours and my sentiment.
What I took issue with was his insistence that his "systems" would work going forward.
Excellent distinction. This is the debate.
"Let's presume that "Singer" has followers and trainees, as he claims"
I am certainly not a trainee, and I don't care for the word follower but I'm more than interested in what he has been saying. That's for sure. I don't use his system.
I think legitimate card counters in BJ are tops, but lets expand the pool of card counters to trainee's and wannabes who bungle the job, lose the count, get flustered and get tossed. The reality now is the system is a loser too. That is reality also.
[B]"Now let's move on to the whole tax credibility issue"
I get it.
"Anyway, as time has passed, I have become less convinced "Singer" was ahead what he has claimed. It doesn't much matter. What matters is that his systems' followers, as an aggregate, cannot win going forward as a group. That's all that matters"
Maybe he won it, but not ahead by it. Ok. Maybe the "followers" only really wants to improve their game. Stem the losses. Have better days. But that's not encouraged around here on a gambling forum. Strange.
"What matters is the math"
I followed a 3 digit daily number on paper. Interesting. Odds are 1 in a thousand. Every 1000 days, 2.7 years (in theory of course). It took over 9000 days to hit. Over 24 years. That's the bad side of the math. That's a long time to wait for justice. Someone on the board said wait till you watch a royal miss for 10 cycles. Yikes! That's a big hole to fall into.
""Singer's" psychotic viciousness"
This board has a tough crew. No doubt. If you're cruel he will be unnecessarily cruel.
I'll skip the actual arguments I've read kicking through the archives. Singer Verses the World.
You've read them also. You go your way I'll go mine. He makes so much sense to me.
I'm sorry if you've had real personal pain in your life. I've experience it. So many of us have. So many people have no knowledge of real pain.
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