Advantage play / cheating / crime....where is the line?

[AxelWolf]

Maybe I'm missing something but has anyone actually said what this supposed play is/was?

quahaug, this is the article I came across yesterday. It is not the same article that I read a few years ago, so there are other articles out there. You will note how quickly these guys drew attention. Singers claim is that he executed this play, undetected, for 6 years prior to these two players to the tune of 3 million dollars.

https://www.wired.com/2014/10/cheating-video-poker/

From my understanding, shit came down mainly because they were double claiming the SAME jackpots BACK to BACK. Some surveillance guy at Silverton(I think) got suspicious when he noticed the same guy hitting the same 4 of a kind jackpot in the same sequence (aces with a kicker I think).

What I'm a little fussy on, and I think I have confirmation on this, but I want to double check again. There was no need to trigger a hand-pay jackpot to take advantage of this bug. If that's the case, If done right, there was a chance that you could go forever without ever being noticed. Given that there are hundreds(thousands?) of bars, stores and casinos around the world. I don't see why you couldn't pick up between $500 and $2000 per multiple locations per day, the bigger the place the more you could take without being noticed. Assuming Rob played this, Rob could have, should have, made much more money on this play over the years he was playing it. I would think you could make 150k a month easy, but I have no clue how many machines were available that had the double up on them so that would put a limit on you.

It's easy to say after the fact how you would have done it. The problem with that is.... you have no clue what others know, you have no clue if IGT already knows, or when they will know, you have no clue if they will spot this via accounting or some machine audit. So there can be a sence of urgency to get as much money as you can, while you can. Of course, after a year of doing something like this, I would have to assume they have no clue. And if Rob did know about this, well we have proof that some other idiot could stumble onto it and fuck it all up, so you need to get the money while the getting is good.