Advantage play / cheating / crime....where is the line?

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Yes. It was naive thinking to be sure. As you say, a better reason is because you can safely churn more playthrough with the added 50/50 bet (as for beating it, well that's a hell of a good reason to stop it too.) - just like the odds bet in craps if a player is being rated for their play (that's why a few casinos limit the max odds bets to 2 or 3 to 1). But retrospectively, I now believe the primary reason was the Nestor/Kane bug that Ron discovered independently. The reasons you gave are valid and are most likely secondary and tertiary (with my reason only a very small fractional quaternary component of its elimination) motivations for eliminating it (I'm sure it can be found in small shops around the country on very rare occasions like convenience stores, bar tops in dive bars, rural/smaill indian casinos, etc.).

I agree. I think it was the bug that was the main reason.
I remember talking about it to a few pals when they were taking them out but we just figured what I said earlier because that information wasn't known yet.
The other thing about double up, though, is you don't get rated on that play, so it kinda defeats the purpose if playing flat.
However, to get even money in the Casino is always worth investigating... am I right?
Double Up is still around... it isn't completely taken out of Vegas.
It isn't very wide spread though.
I am not sure if the Fremont took all of the double up features out of their games since they moved all the machines around but it was less than a year ago they had it all over the place.
Although if you know anything about that Casino they have recently got serious about being Slots of Fun.
They still have plenty of stand alone progressives that are positive.
Currently they have one 35k Reel Machine that is positive. It starts at 10k.
It was there two days ago so it may have got hit.
I have to head down there a bit later and look around because another machine is just about over 4k that starts at 1k and that is just free money.
First thing is first though I have to watch the Sharks get sliced up by the Blues!