Advantage play / cheating / crime....where is the line?

[Rob.Singer]

My history with Rob goes back further than anyone here, back to about 2005 or 6. Only Arci goes back further than that. I was the one that brought up the fact here on VCT that Rob announced his retirement from professional play in 2009. No one else here knew that or at least the time frame, except Rob. But for some reason he hadn't mentioned it. But more specifically I remember it was in mid 2009 and Rob said he had hit his win quota early that year so was retiring and would no longer be filing Schedule C as a professional gambler after 2009.

John Kane got busted at the Silverton in July, 2009. That was mid 2009. The same time Rob announced his retirement. This is just a huge coincidence, right?

Kane got busted in 2009, but I don't believe that is when the story really broke, is it? I mean the story most often referenced is dated 2013, I believe.

I am not going to say it was a coincidence. But lets do some math. Rob just turned 70 last month. So in 2009, he would have just turned 60 and his wife was on the verge of retiring (according to Rob), so that may have just been a point that his life was changing from having a lot of time by himself, "gambling" to spending more time with his wife and their combined retirement of traveling what not.

There are just numerous possibilities about some of these things and things you seem to think carry more weight for you, just don't for some of the rest of us.

Will you at least agree Mickey that Rob could easily avoided all this, by offering just a little bit of supporting documentation of which he says he has discarded. He says "he knew there would be skeptics", but yet, intentionally discarded the prove that would have ended any and all speculation. Does that make sense to you mickey?

There you go again kew, making up story after story because you're so nervous over this.

Kane got busted in 2009. I've said numerous times that the Silverton HL room is where I first heard about it,and that's where I saw the IGT "worldwide memo". It's also when I walked away from the play for good. Someone like mickey has seen me post this--why don't you ever see these facts?

Next debunk: My wife had no intentions of retiring when I was 60. In fact, she worked until the end of 2011, and even if I had quit at 60 she was planning on working until she was 65. If I were really playing my strategy the last 6 years I wouldn't have minded retiring from that at 60. That feeling, however, disappeared when this play was humming along. And because I was making so much vp money my wife retired 6 years early.

Next debunk: There was no reason for me to have cared about saving "documentation" on this (whatever that would be--you couldn't name it or it's precise value here anyway) because that's not something you worry about when playing in a situation such as that. I knew the play had to end sometime but I played on as if it wouldn't. I also never cared about or expected to release this information at any time. Count yourself lucky that I did it during your lifetime.

Why don't you put as much effort into having sympathy for my pain and suffering over this foot issue? I had a smaller operation on it 2 years ago, then I destroyed it when I jumped off the ladder on my RV outside of Flagstaff, which is why I had to call axel instead of meeting him.