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  1. #21
    So, can you shed any light as to why Mike labeled you a sock puppet Midwest Player?

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So, can you shed any light as to why Mike labeled you a sock puppet Midwest Player?
    Nevermind. I just saw your other thread.

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    ....he said a bunch of shit that he shouldn't have said. And it's not like KJ went on a rant for a day or 2, no....he went on....and on....and on....and on...
    Mike's own posted policy is that he doesn't consider things said on other forums.

    So far I have seen two exceptions to that.

    1.) I was banned for something I said on another forum. If you read Mike's announcement it states "while normally we don't consider things said on another forum.... I am banning KewlJ for something said on another forum".

    and 2.) seems to be that I can't be re-instated for things said on other forums.

    I mean which is it RS_?

    And BTW, the banning and reason was manufactured. It wasn't about what I said on another forum. IT was because Norm demanded it of Mike. Mike told me Norm contacted him multiple times within a 24 hour period demanding that I be banned. A second moderator filled in that the number was 19 times in 24 hours, which is what I posted and which supposedly got me banned.

    Not only is that NOT a ban-able offense, but according to Mike's own policy, isn't even against the rules.
    I'll make this as clear as possible:

    1. You got fucked on the reason you got banned.
    2. It's your own damn fault for posting the shit AFTER you got banned...and that is why you aren't going to get unbanned.
    #FreeTyde

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    ....he said a bunch of shit that he shouldn't have said. And it's not like KJ went on a rant for a day or 2, no....he went on....and on....and on....and on...
    Mike's own posted policy is that he doesn't consider things said on other forums.

    So far I have seen two exceptions to that.

    1.) I was banned for something I said on another forum. If you read Mike's announcement it states "while normally we don't consider things said on another forum.... I am banning KewlJ for something said on another forum".

    and 2.) seems to be that I can't be re-instated for things said on other forums.

    I mean which is it RS_?

    And BTW, the banning and reason was manufactured. It wasn't about what I said on another forum. IT was because Norm demanded it of Mike. Mike told me Norm contacted him multiple times within a 24 hour period demanding that I be banned. A second moderator filled in that the number was 19 times in 24 hours, which is what I posted and which supposedly got me banned.

    Not only is that NOT a ban-able offense, but according to Mike's own policy, isn't even against the rules.
    I'll make this as clear as possible:

    1. You got fucked on the reason you got banned.
    2. It's your own damn fault for posting the shit AFTER you got banned...and that is why you aren't going to get unbanned.
    So then you are saying Shackleford is a liar when he says that "things said on other forums aren't considered". That remains the official policy at WoV. It seems not to apply to only me and in two different instances now. I was banned for something said on another forum and now I can't be unbanned for things said on another forum.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Mike's own posted policy is that he doesn't consider things said on other forums.

    So far I have seen two exceptions to that.

    1.) I was banned for something I said on another forum. If you read Mike's announcement it states "while normally we don't consider things said on another forum.... I am banning KewlJ for something said on another forum".

    and 2.) seems to be that I can't be re-instated for things said on other forums.

    I mean which is it RS_?

    And BTW, the banning and reason was manufactured. It wasn't about what I said on another forum. IT was because Norm demanded it of Mike. Mike told me Norm contacted him multiple times within a 24 hour period demanding that I be banned. A second moderator filled in that the number was 19 times in 24 hours, which is what I posted and which supposedly got me banned.

    Not only is that NOT a ban-able offense, but according to Mike's own policy, isn't even against the rules.
    I'll make this as clear as possible:

    1. You got fucked on the reason you got banned.
    2. It's your own damn fault for posting the shit AFTER you got banned...and that is why you aren't going to get unbanned.
    So then you are saying Shackleford is a liar when he says that "things said on other forums aren't considered". That remains the official policy at WoV. It seems not to apply to only me and in two different instances now. I was banned for something said on another forum and now I can't be unbanned for things said on another forum.
    Who cares? That forum has jumped the shark anyhow. I have a feeling this place will grow out a bit in the months to come.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Mike's own posted policy is that he doesn't consider things said on other forums.

    So far I have seen two exceptions to that.

    1.) I was banned for something I said on another forum. If you read Mike's announcement it states "while normally we don't consider things said on another forum.... I am banning KewlJ for something said on another forum".

    and 2.) seems to be that I can't be re-instated for things said on other forums.

    I mean which is it RS_?

    And BTW, the banning and reason was manufactured. It wasn't about what I said on another forum. IT was because Norm demanded it of Mike. Mike told me Norm contacted him multiple times within a 24 hour period demanding that I be banned. A second moderator filled in that the number was 19 times in 24 hours, which is what I posted and which supposedly got me banned.

    Not only is that NOT a ban-able offense, but according to Mike's own policy, isn't even against the rules.
    I'll make this as clear as possible:

    1. You got fucked on the reason you got banned.
    2. It's your own damn fault for posting the shit AFTER you got banned...and that is why you aren't going to get unbanned.
    So then you are saying Shackleford is a liar when he says that "things said on other forums aren't considered". That remains the official policy at WoV. It seems not to apply to only me and in two different instances now. I was banned for something said on another forum and now I can't be unbanned for things said on another forum.
    Kj, you’re taking this banned thing way to seriously. I got banned from Blackjack Apprenticeship for doing nothing more then supporting tipping and taking the casinos side. I got wronged too, but I recovered. How? I was lucky since we have a Forum Banned Anonymous chapter in my local community. I went to every meeting and followed their 12 step program and have recovered. Hopefully you can find one in your area.

    Or you could just go the route Moses has taken, and join ZenZone and post away with no fear of getting banned. Btw, Moses good stuff lately, but it’s been a little sparse over there lately. Keep up the good work. You’ve had some posts that have had me rolling.

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post

    I'll make this as clear as possible:

    1. You got fucked on the reason you got banned.
    2. It's your own damn fault for posting the shit AFTER you got banned...and that is why you aren't going to get unbanned.
    So then you are saying Shackleford is a liar when he says that "things said on other forums aren't considered". That remains the official policy at WoV. It seems not to apply to only me and in two different instances now. I was banned for something said on another forum and now I can't be unbanned for things said on another forum.
    Kj, you’re taking this banned thing way to seriously. I got banned from Blackjack Apprenticeship for doing nothing more then supporting tipping and taking the casinos side. I got wronged too, but I recovered. How? I was lucky since we have a Forum Banned Anonymous chapter in my local community. I went to every meeting and followed their 12 step program and have recovered. Hopefully you can find one in your area.

    Or you could just go the route Moses has taken, and join ZenZone and post away with no fear of getting banned. Btw, Moses good stuff lately, but it’s been a little sparse over there lately. Keep up the good work. You’ve had some posts that have had me rolling.
    Yuck. Zen Zone hasn't replied to my sign up Email....I asked to be a Member like a MONTH ago!

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    So then you are saying Shackleford is a liar when he says that "things said on other forums aren't considered". That remains the official policy at WoV. It seems not to apply to only me and in two different instances now. I was banned for something said on another forum and now I can't be unbanned for things said on another forum.
    Kj, you’re taking this banned thing way to seriously. I got banned from Blackjack Apprenticeship for doing nothing more then supporting tipping and taking the casinos side. I got wronged too, but I recovered. How? I was lucky since we have a Forum Banned Anonymous chapter in my local community. I went to every meeting and followed their 12 step program and have recovered. Hopefully you can find one in your area.

    Or you could just go the route Moses has taken, and join ZenZone and post away with no fear of getting banned. Btw, Moses good stuff lately, but it’s been a little sparse over there lately. Keep up the good work. You’ve had some posts that have had me rolling.
    Yuck. Zen Zone hasn't replied to my sign up Email....I asked to be a Member like a MONTH ago!
    That's how you really know you reached the bottom of the barrel. When you apply for membership at zenzonr.
    Last edited by MaxPen; 08-15-2019 at 01:39 PM.

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    So then you are saying Shackleford is a liar when he says that "things said on other forums aren't considered". That remains the official policy at WoV. It seems not to apply to only me and in two different instances now. I was banned for something said on another forum and now I can't be unbanned for things said on another forum.
    Kj, you’re taking this banned thing way to seriously. I got banned from Blackjack Apprenticeship for doing nothing more then supporting tipping and taking the casinos side. I got wronged too, but I recovered. How? I was lucky since we have a Forum Banned Anonymous chapter in my local community. I went to every meeting and followed their 12 step program and have recovered. Hopefully you can find one in your area.

    Or you could just go the route Moses has taken, and join ZenZone and post away with no fear of getting banned. Btw, Moses good stuff lately, but it’s been a little sparse over there lately. Keep up the good work. You’ve had some posts that have had me rolling.
    Yuck. Zen Zone hasn't replied to my sign up Email....I asked to be a Member like a MONTH ago!


    Every site has standards. You know, reputations have consequences.

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post

    Kj, youÂ’re taking this banned thing way to seriously. I got banned from Blackjack Apprenticeship for doing nothing more then supporting tipping and taking the casinos side. I got wronged too, but I recovered. How? I was lucky since we have a Forum Banned Anonymous chapter in my local community. I went to every meeting and followed their 12 step program and have recovered. Hopefully you can find one in your area.

    Or you could just go the route Moses has taken, and join ZenZone and post away with no fear of getting banned. Btw, Moses good stuff lately, but itÂ’s been a little sparse over there lately. Keep up the good work. YouÂ’ve had some posts that have had me rolling.
    Yuck. Zen Zone hasn't replied to my sign up Email....I asked to be a Member like a MONTH ago!


    Every site has standards. You know, reputations have consequences.
    With the exception of this site, the fact is the standards at most sites is if the owners don’t like your opinion or they don’t like you, they will ban you. It’s that simple. I just wish the site owners would be more honest about their standards.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post

    Kj, you’re taking this banned thing way to seriously. I got banned from Blackjack Apprenticeship for doing nothing more then supporting tipping and taking the casinos side. I got wronged too, but I recovered. How? I was lucky since we have a Forum Banned Anonymous chapter in my local community. I went to every meeting and followed their 12 step program and have recovered. Hopefully you can find one in your area.

    Or you could just go the route Moses has taken, and join ZenZone and post away with no fear of getting banned. Btw, Moses good stuff lately, but it’s been a little sparse over there lately. Keep up the good work. You’ve had some posts that have had me rolling.
    Yuck. Zen Zone hasn't replied to my sign up Email....I asked to be a Member like a MONTH ago!


    Every site has standards. You know, reputations have consequences.
    But I used an UNKNOWN EMAIL to try to sign up and was IGNORED.

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by Bob21 View Post
    With the exception of this site, the fact is the standards at most sites is if the owners don’t like your opinion or they don’t like you, they will ban you. It’s that simple. I just wish the site owners would be more honest about their standards.
    Bob21 where have you been. I thought you maybe fell on the face of the earth like "Three." I'm sure Freightman misses you over at Norm's site. By the way does anyone know what happened to "Three."

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Bob21 where have you been. I thought you maybe fell on the face of the earth like "Three." I'm sure Freightman misses you over at Norm's site. By the way does anyone know what happened to "Three."
    More trolling, you asshole? Find a roof to shovel!

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by 21forme View Post
    More trolling, you asshole? Find a roof to shovel!
    You and the refinery are the two biggest fucking assholes on the internet. At every chance you get, you take a cheap shot at Zee. Why don't you just put Zee and me on ignore. Of course, you read every one of our posts looking for the next opportunity to take a cheap shot.

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Mike's own posted policy is that he doesn't consider things said on other forums.

    So far I have seen two exceptions to that.

    1.) I was banned for something I said on another forum. If you read Mike's announcement it states "while normally we don't consider things said on another forum.... I am banning KewlJ for something said on another forum".

    and 2.) seems to be that I can't be re-instated for things said on other forums.

    I mean which is it RS_?

    And BTW, the banning and reason was manufactured. It wasn't about what I said on another forum. IT was because Norm demanded it of Mike. Mike told me Norm contacted him multiple times within a 24 hour period demanding that I be banned. A second moderator filled in that the number was 19 times in 24 hours, which is what I posted and which supposedly got me banned.

    Not only is that NOT a ban-able offense, but according to Mike's own policy, isn't even against the rules.
    I'll make this as clear as possible:

    1. You got fucked on the reason you got banned.
    2. It's your own damn fault for posting the shit AFTER you got banned...and that is why you aren't going to get unbanned.
    So then you are saying Shackleford is a liar when he says that "things said on other forums aren't considered". That remains the official policy at WoV. It seems not to apply to only me and in two different instances now. I was banned for something said on another forum and now I can't be unbanned for things said on another forum.
    No, you got banned for breaking an agreement. Whether or not the agreement was fair it doesn't really matter, you shouldn't have agreed to it.

    It's obvious he was talking about CERTAIN things said on the other forums wouldn't carry over to wizard of Vegas. There's no way he could fathom every single situation that might occur, sometimes rules need to be changed as you go along. I guarantee you he doesn't even know half the s*** you had said about him on the other Forum. I know some of you guys love to believe he was reading that, but I guarantee you he wasn't. I wouldn't doubt if Norm was reading it and feeding some of the crap you said to him. But your ban was long before you started posting all that garbage over there. I think you know what you have to do to get back on the wizard of Vegas, either do it or don't, it's your decision. I highly doubt you'll ever be let back on that site without any type of apology or something like that. I'm fairly sure Mike's Banned people he actually likes in person from the site and won't even let those people back on.

    You know damn well you should have just settled down chilled out for a while and let some things play out and then brought your case back up.

    And since then you've broken the rules many times by creating sock puppets over there, it doesn't matter what your reason is for creating sock puppets you did, you got caught breaking the rules.
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 08-15-2019 at 09:20 PM.

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    No, you got banned for breaking an agreement. Whether or not the agreement was fair it doesn't really matter, you shouldn't have agreed to it.

    It's obvious he was talking about CERTAIN things said on the other forums wouldn't carry over to wizard of Vegas. There's no way he could fathom every single situation that might occur, sometimes rules need to be changed as you go along. I guarantee you he doesn't even know half the s*** you had said about him on the other Forum. I know some of you guys love to believe he was reading that, but I guarantee you he wasn't. I wouldn't doubt if Norm was reading it and feeding some of the crap you said to him. But your ban was long before you started posting all that garbage over there. I think you know what you have to do to get back on the wizard of Vegas, either do it or don't, it's your decision. I highly doubt you'll ever be let back on that site without any type of apology or something like that. I'm fairly sure Mike's Banned people he actually likes in person from the site and won't even let those people back on.

    You know damn well you should have just settled down chilled out for a while and let some things play out and then brought your case back up.

    And since then you've broken the rules many times by creating sock puppets over there, it doesn't matter what your reason is for creating sock puppets you did, you got caught breaking the rules.
    Really? someone <- was feeding some of the crap I said to Mike? Who would that have been?

    Officially I was banned for something I said at ZenZone forum. I was banned at WoV about 2 hours after my post at ZenZone Forum. Am I to believe that Mr. Shackleford is a big reader of ZenZone Forum? I can guarantee he never read it until that day....and probably hasn't since. But crybaby Norm Wattenberger reads it and he immediately contacted Mike and directed him there. That is more proof that's Norm had one agenda....to get me banned. He never cared about participating at WoV and he used Mike. Doesn't that count for anything?


    Now just so everybody knows what Axelwolf is referring to, several of the guys, Axel, MaxPen, not sure about RS_, have recently discussed with Mike the possibility of my returning to WoV. But Mike has set terms that I can not....WILL NOT agree to. Mike wants me to apologize to Norm Wattenberger. I have nothing to apologize to Norm Wattenberger about. He banned me from his forum, because he decided he wanted to protect someone that was intentionally misleading players with Blackjack claims that were mathematically impossible. Norm is a math guy and he knew these claims were mathematically impossible. But he decided to protect the leading poster on his forum, from several of us professional players that challenged these claims.

    So Norm's forum, he had a right to do that I guess. But that wasn't enough for Norm, he followed me to 4 different forums, BJ21 which at the time he didn't participate much at, Wizard of Vegas where he hadn't participated in 5 years, and 2+2 poker forum, and GamblingForums where he created accounts just to feud with me. And at each of these forums, he pressured the forum owners and administrators to ban me. Three of these forum owners/administrators told Norm to fuck off. Only Michael Shackleford gave in to Norms demand because according to Mike, he owed Norm a favor.

    Norm Wattenberger has a history of feuds with numerous people in the blackjack community and he has a history of threatening forum owners with legal action. He is a real sleazebag. A very small human being. I will NOT apologize to this asshole. And I am not sorry for anything I have said about him.

    Now Mike on the other hand, I do regret most of the things I said about him. While he was wrong for allowing Norm to bully him and ban a real member of his forum, a member who tried to contribute positively for 4 years, I do realize that Mike was put in a bad situation because he considered Norm his friend at the time. I was hard on Mike, said some really nasty things that I do regret. I always liked and respected Mike Shackleford. I admire that he left his cushy Govt job to follow his passion. I am genuinely happy for the success he had in selling his business. I only wish I had a tenth of his mathematical ability.

    But this hold that Norm continues to have over Mike is bizarre, especially after Norm ceased participating at WoV after he got what he wanted, proving what his intent was. I don't know what the deal is with these guys, but I will never apologize to Norm as a condition of anything! And for Mike to even ask that, diminishes my view of him.

  17. #37
    Trying to get back on the WoV is so 2018. It's sort of like fighting to get into North Korea. WTF wants to do that? You have to discuss or raise only Ministry approved topics now. Only a communist would subject themself to that BS.

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    No, you got banned for breaking an agreement. Whether or not the agreement was fair it doesn't really matter, you shouldn't have agreed to it.

    It's obvious he was talking about CERTAIN things said on the other forums wouldn't carry over to wizard of Vegas. There's no way he could fathom every single situation that might occur, sometimes rules need to be changed as you go along. I guarantee you he doesn't even know half the s*** you had said about him on the other Forum. I know some of you guys love to believe he was reading that, but I guarantee you he wasn't. I wouldn't doubt if Norm was reading it and feeding some of the crap you said to him. But your ban was long before you started posting all that garbage over there. I think you know what you have to do to get back on the wizard of Vegas, either do it or don't, it's your decision. I highly doubt you'll ever be let back on that site without any type of apology or something like that. I'm fairly sure Mike's Banned people he actually likes in person from the site and won't even let those people back on.

    You know damn well you should have just settled down chilled out for a while and let some things play out and then brought your case back up.

    And since then you've broken the rules many times by creating sock puppets over there, it doesn't matter what your reason is for creating sock puppets you did, you got caught breaking the rules.
    Really? someone <- was feeding some of the crap I said to Mike? Who would that have been?

    Officially I was banned for something I said at ZenZone forum. I was banned at WoV about 2 hours after my post at ZenZone Forum. Am I to believe that Mr. Shackleford is a big reader of ZenZone Forum? I can guarantee he never read it until that day....and probably hasn't since. But crybaby Norm Wattenberger reads it and he immediately contacted Mike and directed him there. That is more proof that's Norm had one agenda....to get me banned. He never cared about participating at WoV and he used Mike. Doesn't that count for anything?


    Now just so everybody knows what Axelwolf is referring to, several of the guys, Axel, MaxPen, not sure about RS_, have recently discussed with Mike the possibility of my returning to WoV. But Mike has set terms that I can not....WILL NOT agree to. Mike wants me to apologize to Norm Wattenberger. I have nothing to apologize to Norm Wattenberger about. He banned me from his forum, because he decided he wanted to protect someone that was intentionally misleading players with Blackjack claims that were mathematically impossible. Norm is a math guy and he knew these claims were mathematically impossible. But he decided to protect the leading poster on his forum, from several of us professional players that challenged these claims.

    So Norm's forum, he had a right to do that I guess. But that wasn't enough for Norm, he followed me to 4 different forums, BJ21 which at the time he didn't participate much at, Wizard of Vegas where he hadn't participated in 5 years, and 2+2 poker forum, and GamblingForums where he created accounts just to feud with me. And at each of these forums, he pressured the forum owners and administrators to ban me. Three of these forum owners/administrators told Norm to fuck off. Only Michael Shackleford gave in to Norms demand because according to Mike, he owed Norm a favor.

    Norm Wattenberger has a history of feuds with numerous people in the blackjack community and he has a history of threatening forum owners with legal action. He is a real sleazebag. A very small human being. I will NOT apologize to this asshole. And I am not sorry for anything I have said about him.

    Now Mike on the other hand, I do regret most of the things I said about him. While he was wrong for allowing Norm to bully him and ban a real member of his forum, a member who tried to contribute positively for 4 years, I do realize that Mike was put in a bad situation because he considered Norm his friend at the time. I was hard on Mike, said some really nasty things that I do regret. I always liked and respected Mike Shackleford. I admire that he left his cushy Govt job to follow his passion. I am genuinely happy for the success he had in selling his business. I only wish I had a tenth of his mathematical ability.

    But this hold that Norm continues to have over Mike is bizarre, especially after Norm ceased participating at WoV after he got what he wanted, proving what his intent was. I don't know what the deal is with these guys, but I will never apologize to Norm as a condition of anything! And for Mike to even ask that, diminishes my view of him.
    I didn't say someone I said no doubt Norm may have been, but how the hell would I know? I think Mike mainly wanted to apologize for calling him stinky and and whatever else you may have said that wasn't related to the actual thing you were upset about in the first place. It's one thing calling out someone's b******* it's another thing when you start to get personal. If you call recall correctly you had tons of support at the beginning but you just kept digging a hole deeper and deeper and deeper and pissing everybody off who originally supported you. You actually turn some of your fans into absolute haters. Everyone kept telling you just to stop and let it go before your drug yourself and others mental. I can almost guarantee you had you stuck to just the facts and not went way overboard you would have been posting all this time. But now you're stuck in the crevices and armpits of the online gambling community. Hey, but, look on the bright side, you Will always have Nathan and Rob singer.
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 08-15-2019 at 11:20 PM.

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Trying to get back on the WoV is so 2018. It's sort of like fighting to get into North Korea. WTF wants to do that? You have to discuss or raise only Ministry approved topics now. Only a communist would subject themself to that BS.
    do you know how hard it is to find a date on this site?

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I think Mike mainly wanted to apologize for calling him stinky and and whatever else you may have said that wasn't related to the actual thing you were upset about in the first place. It's one thing calling out someone's b******* it's another thing when you start to get personal.
    So you are telling me that Michael Shackleford is going to dictate what I can or can't say on other forums as a condition of me participating on his forum?

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