Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

Shumer and Pelosi both agree with his actions on China. It's the hard left that is trying to use it as a political tool.
If Trump does get re-elected, I think his actions on China will have been the main factor (whereas healthcare seemed to be the biggest factor in his 2016 election to the presidency).
That'll be a very small factor. Most working and retired Americans care very little about the trade war with China, illegal greaseballs from Mexico, or anything else that doesn't directly affect THEM. What they see is more money in their weekly paychecks, lower taxes, job security, and an EXPLOSION in their 401k's and market accounts.

How Trump worked that magic was with all his ancillary policies, but the people don't care about all that. They just want to be doing better, and he's given them that in spades. Regardless of all the BS you hear from the media, working & retired Democratic's are doing just as well as working & retired Republicans. And NONE of these people are gonna be stupid enough to vote their cash and security cow out on election day 2020.
For once, I am in 100 percent with Rob. Gains on the 401K is my mantra. I am semi retired and my goal is to maximize my earnings in the 401K. My wife is fully retired and is looking forward to good stock market returns.

We have had over 2 1/2 years with the new president. He has definitely made a point of moving the market. But what are the numbers?

The best way to compare is to take the first 20 months for Obama (first and second term) versus Trump January 1st though August 31st, (Yes, I know the inauguration date is January 20th).

As an independent, I do not give a rat's ass as to how the numbers evolved. I was surprised. I worked the numbers for both the Dow Jones and the Standard & Poors.


Dow Jones: Obama (first 20 months) 12.9 percent annualized growth. Trump 10.0 percent. Obama (second term. first 20 months) 9.1 percent.

Standard and Poors: Obama 12.9 percent. Trump 9.0 percent. Obama (second term) 13.2 percent.

Whole I agree the present administration has done things to invigorate the economy, if one relies only on their retirement 401K, the numbers are interesting.