Mr Boz: I'm not sure they had a "good time." Often the "money man" who did not speak got up angrily from his seat as the chips were swept away. He was constantly keeping his chips in "counting groups" of five hundred or five thousand. His partner who did speak verbally cursed in English when they lost.

But yes, they were playing "hunches." And I have some additional info.

I went back to the casino today and they were back. When I first walked by the table they had about $28,000 including two $5,000 chips. When I walked by again about two hours later one $5,000 chip was gone and they had about $13,000 total and their base dealer had a stack of $1,000 chips they must have lost.

It appeared they would press their place bets if the shooter started his hand with a point. But if the shooter's first throw was a craps or a seven they would be making DC bets.

I watched one hand where the shooter's first roll was a 3 craps. The Asian men started betting don't come. But after the 3 the shooter rolled a 10 and then went on to roll the small (2,3,4,5,6) and then the tall numbers except the 12. Each don't come bet that was lost was for $350. And then when it appeared the shooter was going to make the ALL the Asian men placed the 6 and 8 for $300 each and kept pressing... until a 7 out. A total disaster for "their system."