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No just chops, as in the sports bettor pays 80% of the bet and gets 80% of the win. It's a way of circumventing anti-beard rules.

I'm not sure what the term "+EV sports bettor" is supposed to mean. If you mean historically, then why not just say "Winning sports bettor?" If you mean some angles that have historically won, that's ancient history. It's not "+EV." If you mean the guys who have flipped the odds in their favor by pay-after-you-win contracts per game or per week, you seem to be saying something is wrong with that, but I'm not clear.

I mean, technically speaking, there is no such thing as a "+EV sports bettor" unless you are referring strictly to those people who arbitrage numbers. That's a part of what I do, but it's not handicapping.

It seems strange to me that you find the term "+EV sports bettor" unclear.

Unless you are arbitraging numbers, there is no such thing as a "+EV sports bettor." Using that phrase makes assumptions either based on the bettor's historical track record or based on assumptions about historical angles, trends, whatever of various bets. In either case, the use of that phrase is inappropriate unless you are exclusively talking about arbitraging numbers or auto-profits, as we used to call them.

I think that particular phrase, unless applied specifically to arbitrage, is a way for losers to feel as if they're winners because they've allegedly found +EV situations. Plus EV situations? Really? Based on what?

I mean, maybe -- stretching a bit -- one can use that phrase to discuss mega-bonus-whoring or rebate applications along with arbitrage. Bonus shopping and rebates are great, but I still would not refer to those relying on them as "+EV sports bettors." Maybe call them "+EV bonus/rebate experts" or something.

I find it very weird when people apply stock market phrases or gambling-in-general phrases to discuss things they know very little about. Jargon doesn't make somebody an expert. In fact, I'd argue the opposite. The whole "sharps/squares" lingo is comical. Anybody who uses it (sorry, Dan) is marking themselves as a dodecahedron. That was sarcasm, by the way.

And frankly, I don't care if "+EV sports bettors" is a phrase that's used on a dozen forums or by a dozen pseudo-experts. Shared jargon is a red flag, not evidence of correctness. It's misleading and wrong.