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    So Ive been practicing now for a few weeks counting down decks no prob in about 30 secs. I have been using hi/lo but thinking about trying red 7 to remove the deck calculation for TC.

    I only have two casinos in driving distance. One is at about a .57 house edge (6 deck, DAS, RSA (To 3 hands), split to 4 hands otherwise, aces only receive 1, no surrender, obviously 3-2, and a consitent dealer set 75% pen at all the tables. This is in WI. Almost no heat there from when I have gone and played. But I dont think you could wong in or back count itd be to conspicious there. The other is Hochuck which is farther and has worse rules.

    I have a full setup at home where I totally replicate this, i.e shuffle machine i double shuffle with, table felt, chips, shoe, cut cards, i do everything exactly as they do.

    This game should be beatable with a 1-12 spread. My sessions are either lose all or double your money. But so far out of 8 sessions at home where i start with 25-30 units, i have lost 6, and only won 2. Obviously this is possible with a swing but my concern is that I have only had a TC as high as +6 in any of these sessions and usually it doesnt pass +4 so im never getting anywhere near at 12 unit spread. Usually i do make it 4-7 shoes into these sessions before i either win or lose, is this also normal?

    Sidenote: tips on counting at the casino because i can count down decks in pairs all day but looking at a table or even my own setup i turn into a sloth.

    Looking for general input or thoughts on this.

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    Get out of here, fuck you, you KewlJ Impersonator!
    Last edited by Tasha; 12-02-2019 at 06:20 AM.

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    Just for the record, the above "new" poster is not me. I can't imagine that this is some sort of innocent coincidence and not planned 'mischeif', but we'll see where it goes.

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Just for the record, the above "new" poster is not me. I can't imagine that this is some sort of innocent coincidence and not planned 'mischeif', but we'll see where it goes.
    I know that it's not you. In fact while you were writing your oath of it not being you, I was telling the guy off for impersonating you. Our responses are literally one minute apart.

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    And in answer to the OP, , you might want to familiarize yourself with true count frequencies. I recommend Don Schlesingers Blackjack Attack 3 or Qfit it software products for this.

    You will see that in 6 and 8 deck shoe games the higher TC's occur pretty infrequently and and that they are clumped, meaning you won't see a t.c. of +6 that often, less that 1% of the time. And when you do, you might experience a number of them in that one high count shoe, meaning you might not see another for many shoes.

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    I am actually thinking this is probably you Tasha. This has your type of shenanigans fingerprints all over it.

    But I don't care and am too busy right now for this crap. To quote my dear friend Norm "I don't have time for this. I have work to do". (I thought my blackjack friends might appreciate this quote).

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    I am actually thinking this is probably you Tasha. This has your type of shenanigans fingerprints all over it.

    But I don't care and amfoo busy right now for this crap. To quote my dear friend Norm "I don't have time for this. I have work to do". (I thought my blackjack friends might appreciate this quote).
    So, I defended you and you think this is probably one of my Socks? :/ This is not one of my Socks and I actually sent a very scathing, bitchy, Private Message to your Impersonator. Here is the PM I sent your Impersonator. I feel like this guy is most likely Moses in disguise.

    Here is my PM to your Impersonator.

    "Fuck you, you KewlJ Impersonator! You are not KewlJ and we all know it. Who are you and why did you impersonate KewlJ? Are you Moses? Moses, you are a sad sad Troll if you are Moses. Let the rivalry between you and KewlJ die , possible Moses."
    Last edited by Tasha; 12-02-2019 at 06:41 AM.

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    Yes I do. But I just don't care either way.

    And for the record, while Dan is lacks at moderating this forum, it is my understanding that socks aren't allowed.

    Dan does on occasion identify and publicly name socks, so this might not end well for you or whoever, should Dan decide to do his job.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Yes I do. But I just don't care either way.

    And for the record, while Dan is lacks at moderating this forum, it is my understanding that socks aren't allowed.

    Dan does on occasion identify and publicly name socks, so this might not end well for you or whoever, should Dan decide to do his job.
    I'm hurt that you think that this is one of my Socks. I stuck my neck out for you on this one! I gave a very nasty PM to someone who has a very small and very remote possibility of being a Legitimate Newbie in order to defend you!

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    I'm hurt that you think that this is one of my Socks. I stuck my neck out for you on this one! I gave a very nasty PM to someone who has a very small and very remote possibility of being a Legitimate Newbie in order to defend you!

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    Fuck you. Now you copied and pasted my post to KewlJ. You have just given my reasonable suspicion of you being an Impersonator even more credence. Thank you for making me look that much more credible.

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    Looks like it just got busted Tasha, don't give me no bulshit that you just happened to be up and on the Forum posting at the same time as the fake and just happened to say the exact same thing. Nope, you f***** up somehow and then realized what you did it and tried to cover it up. Nice try, but this isn't fooling anyone. If you're up to your old tricks again I hope you permanently get banned from this site, since you won't learn your f****** lesson. I bet you're using a VPN or is from your area.

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    This really isn't me this time! It's the real truth! This idiot impersonated me by copying and pasting my post!

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    This isn't Tasha. She doesn't know enough about blackjack to make such a post. Sorry Tasha, but I don't think you know shit about blackjack. My guess is its Moses.

    By the way, I just checked CBJN for WI casinos and there are no six deck games with .57% edge listed. There are two casinos with .56% edge and one of those is my report and the 6 deck is a specialized game only open probably on New Years Eve. And these casinos are not located anywhere near HoChunk. Poster knows shit about WI casinos.

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    This isn't Tasha. She doesn't know enough about blackjack to make such a post. Sorry Tasha, but I don't think you know shit about blackjack. My guess is its Moses.
    Not Moses. I give him more credit than this. When he doesn't like you, he isn't afraid to tell you using his "Moses" identity.

    While he has created socks out of necessity, it is not really his style to hide behind a sock. This really has Tasha written all over it. Although the Tasha "fan club" over at WoV, would probably be a better judge than me.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 12-02-2019 at 10:59 AM.

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    The only reason I was thinking possibly not Tasha is because it is usually some haters that have been around forums that I have been on that usually bring up my first name hoping to out me, hoping to harm me with casino personell and such.

    At this point I don't think that even matters. I have done a pretty good job distancing myself from my real identity at the casinos. They are more likely to identify me and give countermeasures by appearance than by association with a name.

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    This isn't Tasha. She doesn't know enough about blackjack to make such a post. Sorry Tasha, but I don't think you know shit about blackjack. My guess is its Moses.
    Not Moses. I give him more credit than this. When he doesn't like you, he isn't afraid to tell you using his "Moses" identity.

    While he has created socks out of necessity, it is not really his style to hide behind a sock. This really has Tasha written all over it. Although the Tasha "fan club" over at WoV, would probably be a better judge than me.
    This is not me! I stood up for you and cussed out the OP more than once in your defense and this is the thanks I get. :/

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    This isn't Tasha. She doesn't know enough about blackjack to make such a post. Sorry Tasha, but I don't think you know shit about blackjack. My guess is its Moses.

    By the way, I just checked CBJN for WI casinos and there are no six deck games with .57% edge listed. There are two casinos with .56% edge and one of those is my report and the 6 deck is a specialized game only open probably on New Years Eve. And these casinos are not located anywhere near HoChunk. Poster knows shit about WI casinos.
    I was thinking the same thing however She's Crafty enough to scour the internet and find something she could just transfer over to here. Or perhaps you had helped who knows. She had some sock puppets on Wizard of Vegas that also didn't seem like it was her but it turned out to be.

    Hopefully I'm wrong. I guess we would have to ask Dan if the General location matches up or the persons is using a VPN.

    Why would this person bother copying same exact same thing Tasha said? That doesn't make any sense. I don't know, just a few too many coincidences.

  19. #19
    I think Midwest Player might be Tasha’s sock. Shack might have had it right when he got banned from WoV as a Nathan sock, not kewl.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    This isn't Tasha. She doesn't know enough about blackjack to make such a post. Sorry Tasha, but I don't think you know shit about blackjack. My guess is its Moses.

    By the way, I just checked CBJN for WI casinos and there are no six deck games with .57% edge listed. There are two casinos with .56% edge and one of those is my report and the 6 deck is a specialized game only open probably on New Years Eve. And these casinos are not located anywhere near HoChunk. Poster knows shit about WI casinos.
    I was thinking the same thing however She's Crafty enough to scour the internet and find something she could just transfer over to here. Or perhaps you had helped who knows. She had some sock puppets on Wizard of Vegas that also didn't seem like it was her but it turned out to be.

    Hopefully I'm wrong. I guess we would have to ask Dan if the General location matches up or the persons is using a VPN.

    Why would this person bother copying same exact same thing Tasha said? That doesn't make any sense. I don't know, just a few too many coincidences.
    Don't you see what is happening, Axel? The idiot is obviously impersonating me by copying and pasting my post! I'm being framed and set up!

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