For clarification, I sort of lumped 2 different topic together in that last post. I answered accountinquestion's inquiry as to how cheating could occur at shoe games, based on some of my experience and knowledge. But then I went into Zenkings claim of cheating.

My answer involving clumping is only one possible way of cheating. And it is actually not, from my understanding what Zenking is claiming. In short, Zenking is claiming a short deck. Some of the 10 value cards (and aces) removed. This would be a much more blatant way of cheating. And the industry long ago put procedures in to safeguard against this, like spreading the cards for everyone to see. And of course in recent years some places have suspiciously done away with this safeguard, offering no legitimate reason other than saving time. That just doesn't really fly.

This would be very difficult for a player to prove, which is probably why no one has. You could offer mathematical statistical evidence but that probably wouldn't be enough for a court or gaming commission. You would need a smoking gun. That is to say, someone involved come forward and say "yeah we did this" or "I was told to do this". That hasn't happened as it would be self incrimination for the person involved.

In regards to shorting 10 value cards, I can't swear or prove anything. But like I said, I have a number of casinos that I won't play. Based on my experience, something just doesn't feel right.

If anyone wants to put this to the test, I have a couple casinos that I removed from my rotation this year because I feel they are cheating. I am not exactly sure how and I am not going to make it my mission to figure, but my results at these two locations are suspiciously bad and something just doesn't feel right. Co-incidentally, they have the same owner. So if someone wants to investigate, I will be happy to provide the name of the casinos. Go. Play. Spread to your hearts content. They will let you. AND YOU WILL NOT WIN.