Originally Posted by
Ozzy
Originally Posted by
AndrewG
By the way, I think Mr Mendelson said he viewed 18 yos in a row -- not that he threw 18 yos in a row.
The VCT GOAT poster of all time! Pull up a chair, have a coffee, stay awhile.
I would prefer that AndrewG's "friend", Mr. Mendelson, not be mentioned in the same breath or same discussion as the likes of MDawg and Singer, because Mr. Mendelson never set out to deceive anyone. I personally believe him a victim of selective memory or at worst exaggerating or mis-remembering something he thinks he saw. And I don't say this as any kind of put down. Selective memory is a human thing. Everyone has experienced it. I'll give you an example from my world. I am sitting at a blackjack table when all of the sudden I start losing. After a number of hands I think to myself, geez I am losing every hand, I have lost 12 in a row. But is it really 12 in a row? while it may
seem like it, if I were to go back and look at tape it was probably 7 or 8 or maybe 8 out of 9 hands, forgetting one win or push mixed in. THAT is how selective memory works. And I honestly believe that is what occurred with Alan. Unfortunately over the years he dug in and became very defensive and it grew to what it is.
Now the other thing that differentiates is that Alan was never trying to mislead anybody for financial gain. I have been on forums where players were and rather blatantly. And I have been on forums, where that sort of thing didn't occur out in the open on the forum, but behind the scenes via private discussions. One guy on a blackjack forum, took to "mentoring" new players. He had a certain blackjack count that he pushed, hi-opt2, and would privately teach some of the newer players. It is highly doubtful he did so for free. And then the story broke, that he had partnered with several of these newer players that he mentored, combined bankrolls, and that he had been robbed of everybody's money.
So there are all kinds of ways. Even our own Rob Singer has mentioned privately meeting and teaching players his progressive system, which he later revealed to Alan was a scam. I mean who knows what financial arrangements were involved in those private lessons. Is there anybody that really thinks he did that for free? I mean this is a guy that wrote books on his progressive system that he later admitted was bogus (which we all knew).
And that is why I don't buy the argument that Dan Druff made yesterday that he let Singer go on because he was never selling anything. Who knows what went on behind the scene. If a forum owner gives someone the platform to push such a claim, they are also providing the means (private messaging) for all the backdoor stuff.