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  1. #141
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    When are you going to prove YOUR claims?
    I would never expose my financials to even banks online. Imagine the stupidity of your mind to think anyone with brains would release them on an anonymous forum filled with the fucking destitute dangerous hustling morons like on this site. How fucking stupid could you be?

    Claims of success being made about gambling without proof is just bullshit and deserves to be challenged. If you can’t talk about how your alleged claims are being done, then don’t expect anyone else to believe it. Put-Up or Shut-Up.
    Blackhole, I have always found you to be a very mean and bitter person. Just a really angry guy....about what I have no idea. But I never thought you were stupid. These two thoughts, made almost back to back in the same post is just idiotic. How can you not see the complete hypocrisy of these two statements?

    Basically you are saying that you don't have to prove anything.....but others do. The fact is nobody needs to prove anything. That just IS NOT how an anonymous message board works. People have a right to say and make whatever claims they want. And you are free to draw your own conclusions. But you just don't have a right to demand proof of anything. That's just ludicrous.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 10-25-2017 at 10:02 AM.

  2. #142
    On a brighter note, occasionally a sports handicapper has an email collection dating back a decade that demonstrates profit. Now those who think sports handicappers are "APs" would find that troublesome for debunking APs in general.

    Me, personally, I don't label myself an AP. But I can't control how other people label various forms of gambling.

  3. #143
    Originally Posted by Biloxi Bill View Post
    Then limp on back to your 3 man site and crawl back up Larry S ass where you belong, Punk
    Hey, since Frank doesn't post there we are in serious need of a mole to whack.

    I see you waving your hand: thanks for volunteering.

    Apt.
    What, Me Worry?

  4. #144
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    On a brighter note, occasionally a sports handicapper has an email collection dating back a decade that demonstrates profit. Now those who think sports handicappers are "APs" would find that troublesome for debunking APs in general.

    Me, personally, I don't label myself an AP. But I can't control how other people label various forms of gambling.
    I don't know why you refuse to accept the label of AP? While I don't understand most of what you do, you obviously have a track record off winning over 30-40 years. So while I don't understand it, you have found some way to play with an advantage. THAT sir is an AP. Someone playing with an advantage. I don't know how it could be any clearer. But if you don't like that classification or label for whatever reason, that is fine.

    As for your decision to prove anything....that was your decision. I think it was wrong as it only emboldens those that seek proof of anything from anyone, when they have absolutely no right to. BUT it was your right to do so and I understand why you did. You probably just got sick of the 'badgering'.

    So you proved. Ahh...what did that get you? Alan dishonestly delaying and dragging his feet in an attempt to undermine you and Singer declaring your proof not good enough before he ever saw it. You are not going to win with people that are dishonest and refuse to play fair.

  5. #145
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    I would never expose my financials to even banks online. Imagine the stupidity of your mind to think anyone with brains would release them on an anonymous forum filled with the fucking destitute dangerous hustling morons like on this site. How fucking stupid could you be? Better yet, the stupidity of some that offer you to put up 10K to meet in person and be shown proof. Imagine anyone with means willing to do something this stupid for 10K. Just an alleged AP detour.

    This is a gambling forum talking about gambling. Claims of success being made about gambling without proof is just bullshit and deserves to be challenged. If you can’t talk about how your alleged claims are being done, then don’t expect anyone else to believe it. Put-Up or Shut-Up.

    Like I said several times before, Mickey does it and talks about how he does it. His claims are totally somewhat believable under his special conditions. But, it’s harmless 2-bit action. Just stop with all the phantom nonsense like in my quote above.

    If this was a business forum about something I was involved in and I made outrageous claims of success, you could make a good bet that everyone on it would be all over me for proof. Instead, I wouldn’t utter a word about any golden goose I caught. I would keep my mouth shut and just go with the flow paying attention to every detail being discussed that could help me even further.

    In other words, your request for proof for something that is totally un-related to the conversations of alleged AP gambling profits on a gambling forum, is just another AP detour.

    Then again, I could always take the typical and obvious AP response… Fuck-Off
    I just quoted my whole post above, to demonstrate when bullshit artists cherry pick quotes to fit their narrative.

    Below is what phony fraud quoted with such a clever comment:

    QUOTE : I would never expose my financials to even banks online. Imagine the stupidity of your mind to think anyone with brains would release them on an anonymous forum filled with the fucking destitute dangerous hustling morons like on this site. How fucking stupid could you be?

    Claims of success being made about gambling without proof is just bullshit and deserves to be challenged. If you can’t talk about how your alleged claims are being done, then don’t expect anyone else to believe it. Put-Up or Shut-Up. End of cherry picked quote:


    Comment to fit cherry pick text: But I never thought you were stupid. These two thoughts, made almost back to back in the same post is just idiotic. How can you not see the complete hypocrisy of these two statements?

    Kewlj, your a phony and a fraud, I'm pretty sure that fact is stamped, confirmed, and closed.
    Last edited by blackhole; 10-25-2017 at 10:46 AM.

  6. #146
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    On a brighter note, occasionally a sports handicapper has an email collection dating back a decade that demonstrates profit. Now those who think sports handicappers are "APs" would find that troublesome for debunking APs in general.

    Me, personally, I don't label myself an AP. But I can't control how other people label various forms of gambling.
    I don't know why you refuse to accept the label of AP? While I don't understand most of what you do, you obviously have a track record off winning over 30-40 years. So while I don't understand it, you have found some way to play with an advantage. THAT sir is an AP. Someone playing with an advantage. I don't know how it could be any clearer. But if you don't like that classification or label for whatever reason, that is fine.

    As for your decision to prove anything....that was your decision. I think it was wrong as it only emboldens those that seek proof of anything from anyone, when they have absolutely no right to. BUT it was your right to do so and I understand why you did. You probably just got sick of the 'badgering'.

    So you proved. Ahh...what did that get you? Alan dishonestly delaying and dragging his feet in an attempt to undermine you and Singer declaring your proof not good enough before he ever saw it. You are not going to win with people that are dishonest and refuse to play fair.
    I can't speak for Redietz, but to me the term AP implies that there is an advantage that is being used to one's benefit. In sports and horses, there is no "advantage" other than brains and experience that is being used. Otherwise, we are all playing by the same rules. When MC vultures an UX bonus, that is an advantage. I guess you could say that when I see a horse that should be 3-1 and he is sitting at 8-1, that that is an advantage. Or when Redietz finds a line that is off, that is an advantage. But everyone can do that, so it is his knowledge and experience which I, and I assume he, doesn't feel makes him an AP.

  7. #147
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    On a brighter note, occasionally a sports handicapper has an email collection dating back a decade that demonstrates profit. Now those who think sports handicappers are "APs" would find that troublesome for debunking APs in general.

    Me, personally, I don't label myself an AP. But I can't control how other people label various forms of gambling.
    I don't know why you refuse to accept the label of AP? While I don't understand most of what you do, you obviously have a track record off winning over 30-40 years. So while I don't understand it, you have found some way to play with an advantage. THAT sir is an AP. Someone playing with an advantage. I don't know how it could be any clearer. But if you don't like that classification or label for whatever reason, that is fine.

    As for your decision to prove anything....that was your decision. I think it was wrong as it only emboldens those that seek proof of anything from anyone, when they have absolutely no right to. BUT it was your right to do so and I understand why you did. You probably just got sick of the 'badgering'.

    So you proved. Ahh...what did that get you? Alan dishonestly delaying and dragging his feet in an attempt to undermine you and Singer declaring your proof not good enough before he ever saw it. You are not going to win with people that are dishonest and refuse to play fair.
    True dat.

    I tend to avoid the AP label because I think of AP as casino-specific, and sports or race betting is not casino specific. Now I am a (mini)AP video poker player -- still up about 5K lifetime playing primarily quarters, for which I'm sure Alan would yawn and Wizard of Puke would have a fit. Better, however, than losing. Plus I previously got a dozen nights a year plus comped. Then Boyd cut that -- but now it seems I'm back on for two nights a month starting in January. That's probably, however, due to the massacre.

  8. #148
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Then Boyd cut that -- but now it seems I'm back on for two nights a month starting in January. That's probably, however, due to the massacre.
    Yes, boyd offers really went into the toilet this year. They really cut back. The timing almost makes you think that their purchases o the two cannery casinos and Alainte, set them back financially and they wanted to cut costs somewhere else. So they did so in mailer offers, which is the thing that made them successful in the local market. We will see how that plays out for them.

  9. #149
    Originally Posted by Biloxi Bill View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    KJ, you two-bit drama queen, I for one am getting tired of your promising to leave but then not leaving, enveloping yourself in personal drama and stamping your ruby reds in a tizzy fit about being mistreated by those who think you're an assclown.
    Then limp on back to your 3 man site and crawl back up Larry S ass where you belong, Punk
    Are you referring to the PenaltyBox or Gamblers Glen??

  10. #150
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    KJ, you two-bit drama queen, I for one am getting tired of your promising to leave but then not leaving, enveloping yourself in personal drama and stamping your ruby reds in a tizzy fit about being mistreated by those who think you're an assclown.
    You can't be serious here but respect larrys.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #151
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    KJ, men sometimes like to act like boys, typically when some form of sporting competition is involved.

    For example, when I shoot pool or play darts it takes me to a different place, a place without worry or care or focus on the terrible realities of the modern real world.

    Too bad you can't seem to relate.
    You don’t shoot pool

  12. #152
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    "LOOK AT ME!" brays the card counting attention whore.

    "I am MANLY!" he shouts for all to hear.

    Yeah, sure you are.

    And Alan really did see eighteen yo's.

    "I said I was leaving but the only thing I've taken leave of is my senses."
    Not even worth a reply. Obviously trying to inject yourself here, shows who the real attention whore is. I can't even come up with a name for you. You are just a douchbag on every site you are at. You are a gnat and not even worth swatting at.
    Exactly V is the worst

  13. #153
    Originally Posted by wizardofpuke View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    What a piece of shit you are. Rot in hell, asshole. Oh yeah...that's coming soon enough.
    The lord sayeth, boys who love boys will be the first residents of hell.

    He’s got a point

  14. #154
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by wizardofpuke View Post
    Stop talking tough, and I'm not your loverboy singer. Nothing worse than seeing someone with a weak heart saying they're going to prance around the country to beat guys up. You do get that, right?
    The hell you are not singer or whatever your real name is. I have it written down somewhere with your address.

    And I don't have a weak heart. I have a pretty strong heart. I had a mechanical devise that failed prematurely. And that has been fixed. A bit of recovery time because it was major surgery and I will be good to go. No limitations. I don't even need to be 100% to kick your tired old ass. I could probably do that today, just 8 days out of surgery.

    Ya know, I seriously was going to look you up when you were in vegas and kick your ass. Until I discovered your whole vegas thing was just another made up fantasy thing. But I figured, no need to rush, because I know exactly where you live. And when you push me too far, I will do what I need to do. And collectively, you bitches have now pushed me too far. I don't care the cost, physically, monetarily, or legally. I am going to settle things with a couple of you loud mouth lying bitches, hiding behind your keyboards.

    Bring V and look me up I will fight both of you at once

  15. #155
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by wizardofpuke View Post

    If you weren't lying then you have a weak, defective heart, and if you keep your blood pressure going up then you might want to stay home, relax, and play footsie with someone. A safe bet says you never see 40 with how easily you get heated up.

    I hope you do go after singer, and if there's anything left of you after you face off with coach belly, maybe he'll provide the mercy aspect of this.

    My advice is you should sit down, relax, and have that special someone give you a good foot massage. Either that or just leave here like you've promised so many times already.
    I am very relaxed, Bobby. But keep talking, Argentino. I am going to kick your 68 year old ass, right after I return from coach belly's no show. Only difference is I know where you live. Well, honestly I have two addresses, but I will find you. Your information I all over the internet. What kind of jackass uses his name as an email address. lol

    3450....out. It is long past time for me to settle a couple scored.
    Years of threats and gunplay lol sure you play blackjack for a living

  16. #156
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    You don’t shoot pool
    I shot pool with my good buddy at his home on the Salmon River in Otis, Oregon last Sunday when I went to Lincoln City to watch a car show and car stereo Sound Off at Chinook Winds casino.

    I beat him on his own table but I suppose it helps that I've played since I was a teen, albeit not continuously: fact is, I had a nice table in my former home for years.

    Got any more half-baked comments /projections from the peanut gallery you wanna share with the group?
    What, Me Worry?

  17. #157
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    You don’t shoot pool
    I shot pool with my good buddy at his home on the Salmon River in Otis, Oregon last Sunday when I went to Lincoln City to watch a car show and car stereo Sound Off at Chinook Winds casino.

    I beat him on his own table but I suppose it helps that I've played since I was a teen, albeit not continuously: fact is, I had a nice table in my former home for years.

    Got any more half-baked comments /projections from the peanut gallery you wanna share with the group?

    Who cares talk that shit to my face. No value no substance never helped anyone never created a opportunity for anyone. Standard semi smart lush who thinks they know everything. Nah buddy you are just a soft ass beta

  18. #158
    You really are an annoying little cunt, squealing endlessly like a little bitch about yer 12 units and 100 millions in ap earnings, blah blah blah, hey hey.

  19. #159
    Originally Posted by soxfan View Post
    You really are an annoying little cunt, squealing endlessly like a little bitch about yer 12 units and 100 millions in ap earnings, blah blah blah, hey hey.
    20 million plus get it right bitch


    And hey hey look at how fucked up these freaks are. They are posting on a dead man’s obituary page. You have a fake blackjack player and a drug addict lawyer who have filled the internet with useless bullshit post for decades about nothing. Now they are literally talking shit and trolling a on dead mans memorial. No wonder these freaks never made any real coin in the casino. Lazy drug addict lushes who make Just enough everyday to get an 8 ball and a bag of weed so they can sit home and jerk off to blacked .com.

    Zero shot they are successful at anything it’s why they spend all day for years now worrying about Mdawg or singer or anyone who they can’t understand. Shits funny.

    The so called greatest AP among the thieves thinks he’s the best to ever do it when my team and I ran rings around his broke ass in every casino he’s been in. Probably why he resorted to lawsuits and domestic violence because he’s a fraud.

    There’s like 8 real players on all these board who have made grown man money in this game. The rest are little boys who wish they could actually work hard enough to make it.

    Go ride the plunger next to your toilet shove that shit deep up inside your Guts

    Hey hey

  20. #160
    You're so full of shit.

    "20 million:" bwa ha ha ha

    Accusing me of posting on Keen's obit tribute wall?

    Fuck off, that's libel: I'd sue you but I doubt you have the coin to pay for a cup of coffee, let alone a six figure judgment.

    So no, I won't waste my time but I will continue to call you out as being the worthless toadstool you seem to be.

    Oh, I made my "grown man money" in the real world: I just dabble in the fantasy casino world; you can't even succeed on a fucking message board.

    Must really SUCK to be you...
    What, Me Worry?

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