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  1. #101
    Is the harassment of slot APs a regional thing? People in LV are really obvious about it, and I've never seen security care at all. Yesterday someone was playing River Dragons at a downtown casino, at $490, and there were literally three asian guys sitting 10 feet away staring her down. There's a machine in high limit at Palms I play near that someone checks every 10-15 minutes.

  2. #102
    Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Is the harassment of slot APs a regional thing?
    I think it is. I was reading that in one of the southern areas (parts of Alabama IIRC), where they don't like hustling at all. I've been to places where security (and slot attendants) could care less like you have been and other places that are pretty sweaty (a certain place in Fernley) right off the bat when you walk in. I think it's important for people not to generalize and take it on an individual casino level basis.

  3. #103
    I’m on maternity leave right now, so I’m focused on my local joints and learning as much as I can. I’m avoiding layovers until next year and then my plan is to hit places up for a few hours and move on. It should make me hard to track. It also helps that I look like a total
    ploppy.

    ETA: I hate vulturing UX. I don’t want to filter through all the screens just to find one spin plays.

  4. #104
    Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Is the harassment of slot APs a regional thing? People in LV are really obvious about it, and I've never seen security care at all. Yesterday someone was playing River Dragons at a downtown casino, at $490, and there were literally three asian guys sitting 10 feet away staring her down. There's a machine in high limit at Palms I play near that someone checks every 10-15 minutes.
    I know GVR will warn you if they catch you UX vulturing in HL. It actually comes down from surveillance which is kind of impressive.

  5. #105
    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    I know GVR will warn you if they catch you UX vulturing in HL. It actually comes down from surveillance which is kind of impressive.
    This is my opinion: You have to be a moron for not realizing you are being filmed in the casino floor and other parts (except the restroom). Period. Full stop.

    Just look up at the number of cameras filming the entire casino.

    In some casinos, they “know” you based on “biometrics”. They know what car you drive. They know your license plate. If you have a player’s card, then they likely know your DL if you used it to sign up (and the DL is scanned or no player’s card). They use face recognition software. They may have run background check(s) on you.

    A lot of AP’s, scavengers & vultures are completely clueless or ignorant about what casinos do to get a better understanding of their customers. They read and scan public message boards, forums, etc. They have lists. They know who talks to who. They know when you show up, what games you play, how long you stay, etc. (especially when you use a player’s card). They can audit your history going back a long time. And the best part was you gave consent when you “voluntarily” entered the casino or signed up for a player’s card. Yes, you gave consent to being filmed, etc.

    Folks, we are in the age of big data.

    I’ll end with why I hate Cache Creek casino. I can make $1K to $2K on a Friday or Saturday night scavenging there. However, the risks are quite high. One night on my first few trips (many years ago) to Cache Creek, I noticed a (dirty) handprint of a glove on my car’s window. So I looked around and there was a similar glove prints on other cars. So I asked security about it and was told they were looking for guns, drugs, etc. Hmmm. On my next trip, I cleaned out my car and hid things in my trunk. Not something I want to do before going to a casino.

    The thing about Indian casinos near me is that I am on sovereign land.

  6. #106
    Originally Posted by APStewardess View Post
    I’m on maternity leave right now, so I’m focused on my local joints and learning as much as I can. I’m avoiding layovers until next year and then my plan is to hit places up for a few hours and move on. It should make me hard to track. It also helps that I look like a total
    ploppy.

    ETA: I hate vulturing UX. I don’t want to filter through all the screens just to find one spin plays.
    Another pitfall I forgot to mention is that occasionally you might be mistaken for a credit hustler when in fact you are risking your own money (just like almost everyone else at the casino) and not cashing out credits left by previous patrons. Unfortunately, many security guards are as dumb as a bag of hammers.

  7. #107
    A casino on the East Coast that I frequent has no issue with slot hustlers so far. I know hustlers winning drawings and getting meals comped by hosts all the time. I'm sure not every casino is so friendly.

  8. #108
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    My last post on this retarded site.
    I thought you were leaving to go back to your minimum wage casino hustle? What brought you back? Decided that posting for free beat making minimum wage at the casinos?

    May we get a clearer picture of the pennies you scraped last time you worked?
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  9. #109
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    I thought you were leaving to go back to your minimum wage casino hustle? What brought you back? Decided that posting for free beat making minimum wage at the casinos?

    May we get a clearer picture of the pennies you scraped last time you worked?
    And Tasha thinks you are not a troll? Facepalm
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #110
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    My last post on this retarded site.
    I thought you were leaving to go back to your minimum wage casino hustle? What brought you back? Decided that posting for free beat making minimum wage at the casinos?

    May we get a clearer picture of the pennies you scraped last time you worked?
    Who says I'm one person?

    And trust me, I and our crew, make more money and worth many hundreds of times more than you. Don't let a few video poker wins fool you.

  11. #111
    Anyone who starts off a boast along the lines of "I can buy and sell you," which is what you just did...you may bet can't bet and sell his own grave.

    In all the MDawg Adventures, yes I might have occasionally gotten carried away and revealed a bit too much about the actual figures involved to prove a point, but I've never boasted just for the sake of boasting. Those of us who are really doing it, don't need to.
    Last edited by MDawg; 04-11-2020 at 06:55 PM.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  12. #112
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    but, I've never boasted just for the sake of boasting. T
    Are you f****** kidding me? Are you f****** delusional? 95% of what you say is boasting for the sake of boasting. Just go look over on Wizard of Vegas and all the threads you started and all the stuff you say.

    Oh please, I would love to see your supporters type with an honest hand that they don't think you are here to boast. Are you delusional enough to think we are that stupid and gullible? To me it seems like You bait people with your bullshit, just so you can boast about more b*******.

    And yet is resisted any and all attempts to prove any of the stuff you're talking about actually legitimate. Logging into some computer and posting some pictures isn't even close to any legitimate proof.

    "Those of us who are really doing it, don't need to"

    for god sakes, where'd you get that line from? Yet, another one of those things you repeated it didn't come up with on your own.
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 04-11-2020 at 09:38 PM.

  13. #113
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    I've never boasted just for the sake of boasting. Those of us who are really doing it, don't need to.
    You don't boast? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!

    Dude, all you do is boast.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #114
    You can definitely check all the guidelines at Gamb Lands here

  15. #115
    While no one has posted in this thread for a while, here is proof opportunities exist out there if you are patient and disciplined. Sorry if I piss anyone off but this cat is long out of the bag. A low level play at .75 but you would be amazed at those watching me pound the button until a bonus hit. And yes it took multiple 8 and 10 game bonuses along with 1 crummy 2x to hit this but I did well above the 60% on the base game I use thanks to Mickey. And I brought a bankroll looking for higher levels.

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  16. #116
    Nice you snapped it really early instead better than it dragging out to around 200 games and taking a bath for a couple k. Of course when it drags out might get some back on the back end. Last time I played two of those on the same day won about 1200 on the first and lost about 1k on the second.

  17. #117
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Nice you snapped it really early instead better than it dragging out to around 200 games and taking a bath for a couple k. Of course when it drags out might get some back on the back end. Last time I played two of those on the same day won about 1200 on the first and lost about 1k on the second.
    The most I personally I observed is 142 on a 4x at $1.60. But if you have observed 200, I have no reason to doubt you.

    What level did you lose a dime on? That seems to be a run of bad luck at the .75 or 1.60 level but certainly possible. Biggest hit I got on the base game was $50 and change with multiple 5 buffaloes at .75. Keeps you going for a while even when the regular FG’s pay shit. No doubt I was way above expectations on the bonus at 1000x.

    Until I know otherwise I would play these numbers everyday.

  18. #118
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Originally Posted by mcap View Post
    Nice you snapped it really early instead better than it dragging out to around 200 games and taking a bath for a couple k. Of course when it drags out might get some back on the back end. Last time I played two of those on the same day won about 1200 on the first and lost about 1k on the second.
    The most I personally I observed is 142 on a 4x at $1.60. But if you have observed 200, I have no reason to doubt you. The little over 1k loss was actually 2.50 denom took a while to hit but really was mostly just didn’t hit anything much in the free games, payout was less than the 1.60 had played earlier in the day. I know mick said his numbers were from just the lower denoms, figured it was worth the shot cuz had a fresh card and to collect the data .

    What level did you lose a dime on? That seems to be a run of bad luck at the .75 or 1.60 level but certainly possible. Biggest hit I got on the base game was $50 and change with multiple 5 buffaloes at .75. Keeps you going for a while even when the regular FG’s pay shit. No doubt I was way above expectations on the bonus at 1000x.

    Until I know otherwise I would play these numbers everyday.
    I’ve seen 3x go to 180+ not 200 actually. If it can get from reset to 100+ to get a playable number though, it can definitely happen. Yeah I’d play that too it’s just a high variance game going to have some swings. The 1k loss was actually 2.50 denom I know micks numbers were from lower denom but was sitting at 116 games and had a fresh card figured was worth it between that and collecting data. That one really didn’t take that excessively long to hit was more just had a shit bonus round didn’t even get to w2g amount, 1.50 denom earlier in the day bonus was higher, if I had a denomination equivalent bonus payout to the one you got in the picture there it actually would have been a win.

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