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  1. #381
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    What are you saying...that a casino will cut off a player that has won "short term" playing a -EV game?
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    No, he did not. He said a host could cut off a whale. .
    There is an operative difference between "could" and "will".

    If a host "could" cut off a whale, does it matter unless he does?

  2. #382
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    I actually believe that some casino may, in fact, be stupid enough to shut down the action of a baccarat player who is currently getting the better of them over the SHORT term.
    Do you know this for a fact?
    No

  3. #383
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    What are you saying...that a casino will cut off a player that has won "short term" playing a -EV game?
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    No, he did not. He said a host could cut off a whale. .
    There is an operative difference between "could" and "will".

    If a host "could" cut off a whale, does it matter unless he does?
    When a person's job may be on the line who knows how he/she will react. They are only human.

  4. #384
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    I actually believe that some casino may, in fact, be stupid enough to shut down the action of a baccarat player who is currently getting the better of them over the SHORT term.
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Do you know this for a fact?
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    No
    Then it's totally conjecture on you part...it's your fantasy...correct?

  5. #385
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    No, he did not. He said a host could cut off a whale. .
    There is an operative difference between "could" and "will".

    If a host "could" cut off a whale, does it matter unless he does?
    When a person's job may be on the line who knows how he/she will react. They are only human.
    Do you know of any host who cut off a whale who won at an -EV game, and then did not invite that whale back?

  6. #386
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    please quote where I said anything about Mdawg's 2019 trips impacting his 2020 trips.
    Right here...

    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    his recent trip reports indicate an aggregate outcome that has only a 1 in 20 million chance of occurring
    When you asserted that his aggregate outcome "has only a 1 in 20 million chance of occurring" what outcome did you mean...his 2020 results?
    I already answered this question. You keep asking questions that have already been answered. Here is the post where you asked and I answered this exact same question, so that folks can see that you keep asking the same questions over and again even though they were answered and so that people will understand why I am no longer going to answer questions from you (what good does it do - you will ask the same questions again):
    https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ll=1#post98380

  7. #387
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post



    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    No
    Then it's totally conjecture on you part...it's your fantasy...correct?
    Coach belly you are the one who is defending MDawg's bullshit stories, in theory, not me, so if there are any fantasizing going on it is on you.

  8. #388
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    a casino host could cut a whale off if he wins for a few trips in a row and fits into the "leaves if he gets ahead" category.
    What are you saying...that a casino will cut off a player that has won "short term" playing a -EV game?
    First, the casino is not a person. It's individual employee's that work there that make these determinations. Who knows what can go thru a pit boss' or casino hosts mind? To think that all employee's of all the casinos think and do things the same way in lockstep is not realistic. I remember that Larry Flynt was not that high rated as a player, even though he's a whale, because he played close games and would pull out if he got ahead. There were casinos that didn't want his action and there were casinos that took his action.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 03-18-2020 at 05:12 AM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  9. #389
    Plato described the struggles cave dwellers had with comprehending the real objects that cast the shadows they had previously been confined to viewing. Here, the varieties of bizarre interpretations of MDawg’s Adventures make clear that some of you have never experienced or even been close to mainline gambling. But that doesn’t make the substance any less real. There is a real world of high rollers like MDawg out there, beyond the shadows of your caves.

    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...14/#post760518
    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...14/#post760590

    Some of the stuff I am reading here...such as players who think that a win/loss statement on table games is reported to the government, that it is 20 million to 1 that I could have won in casinos over the past two years, players second guessing hosts when they have obviously never had a high level one, or how many hands MDawg might have played when he has posted images of millions in paid markers and played in Vegas over a hundred days in 2019, and over a month in 2020, already...I'll cut it off there and be polite.

    As Joe Buck said to Ratso Rizzo, What am I doing talking to you? Damn it!
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  10. #390
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I remember that Larry Flynt was not that high rated as a player, even though he's a whale, because he played close games and would pull out if he got ahead.
    Say what? He quit when he was ahead?

  11. #391
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Coach belly you are the one who is defending MDawg's bullshit stories, in theory, not me, so if there are any fantasizing going on it is on you.
    I'm looking at photographs of documents.

    What do you got...besides the stuff you make up?

  12. #392
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    Coach belly you are the one who is defending MDawg's bullshit stories, in theory, not me, so if there are any fantasizing going on it is on you.
    I'm looking at photographs of documents.

    If you believe and are satisfied with MDawg's meaningless short term result, try it with your own money.

  13. #393
    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    If you believe and are satisfied with MDawg's meaningless short term result, try it with your own money.
    Playing with my own money won't establish whether or not MDawg has been lying.

    Originally Posted by BoSox View Post
    I just had to comment on MDawg's thread on the chance that a newer member may be influenced with what he was talking about. In other words I was trying to give a fair waring.
    What warning are you trying to give?

    Is there any documentation that MDawg could provide to verify his reported results for 2019 & 2020?

  14. #394
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Plato described the struggles cave dwellers had with comprehending the real objects that cast the shadows they had previously been confined to viewing. Here, the varieties of bizarre interpretations of MDawg’s Adventures make clear that some of you have never experienced or even been close to mainline gambling. But that doesn’t make the substance any less real. There is a real world of high rollers like MDawg out there, beyond the shadows of your caves.

    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...14/#post760518
    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...14/#post760590

    Some of the stuff I am reading here...such as players who think that a win/loss statement on table games is reported to the government, that it is 20 million to 1 that I could have won in casinos over the past two years, players second guessing hosts when they have obviously never had a high level one, or how many hands MDawg might have played when he has posted images of millions in paid markers and played in Vegas over a hundred days in 2019, and over a month in 2020, already...I'll cut it off there and be polite.

    As Joe Buck said to Ratso Rizzo, What am I doing talking to you? Damn it!
    Dude, I avoided casino hosts like the plague but still had my share of them because they insisted. I’m a career gambler (25 years.) Take the Pepp in Reno. They insisted I have a casino host then the host suspended me from all drawings and special events because he figured out I’m an advantage player.

    If your total winnings for 2019 was what you showed on those win/loss statements then you made about 30k less than I did last year. Made it all gambling. In 25 years I’ve never had a losing year.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #395
    More power to you if you made a million in casinos last year.

    And that's the difference between me and you. You guys all cry and say it can't be done when anyone else is booking profits and getting comp'ed playing the high end table games, but if I see someone else making it I just say, Good for you. So what's more likely? that you are doing well and happy, or that you are sad and sorry - personally, I think that the more dubious a person is with what I've posted, especially at this point with all the images and videos, the more that person has probably lost at casinos, such that it makes sense that he espouses the theory of, "I can't win, so nobody can."


    Getting back to polite conversation if it's possible, I do understand that having a casino host and playing above the radar has its risks. I did get banned from BJ for a couple years, but at the same time, my playing above board and becoming friends with the same Director of Table Games who banned me resulted in my eventually getting reinstated for BJ play. As well, at my level of play, it's hard to convince a pit boss you found the money in a taxi cab - meaning that it's just very hard to do anonymously. And finally, part of the reason I switched to Baccarat from BJ (although I still do play some BJ too, at certain tables in Vegas) was to be able to keep flying high and still get comp'ed. They can't hold it against you that you won on what is viewed as a game of chance (versus BJ, which is viewed as a game of skill).

    I am not doing this for a living. But if I lost at it, I would not do it at all.

    Question: at the Pepp you were excluded from events and so on because you had a host and flew above the radar. But if you had been under the radar and unknown you would not have been invited anyway?
    Last edited by MDawg; 03-18-2020 at 11:34 AM.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  16. #396
    A couple thoughts, questions, observations:

    1). Am I not understanding or it is being implied that Mickeycrimm made a million dollars last year? Is this a mis-communication on someone's part? Mickey can you confirm? If you did power to you, but I was under the impression, you were nickel-and-diming it and were more in my range of upper 5 figs to touching 6 figs on a good year.

    2.) I do agree strongly with Mdawg that some of these guys that are continually always hating on AP's and really any one that claims to have made money, it really reveals who they are and it is not a winning player. It is a bitter losing player.

    3.) My former friend BoSox () said something recently regarding Mdawg that I find myself agreeing with. Anybody posting the claims that Mdawg is and attempting to back it up with pictures of stacks of cash/chips/jewelry, rings very, false and phony to me. I mean Mdawg has even stated he is out to get the biggest audience for his claims. That just doesn't seem authentic to me.

    4.) Along the same lines as #3, most AP's don't talk about specific dollars amounts that they make. Most keep that to themselves. I am an exception in this regard because I wanted to share my journey of low/mid level blackjack AP and just what kind of money is really possible as a grinder type player at these stakes and to show it isn't what Movies (like 21) and some of the books of various teams have lead people to believe. They are only telling half.....if that....of the story.

    5.) Mdawg wants to know why some AP's and others question his claims. I mean if AP's can claim to make money, why should anyone not believe he could? The answer is the math. AP's can explain what they are doing that is allowing them to play with an advantage, usually very slim advantage, and how over the long run that translates to winning money. Mdawg you have never satisfactorily explained this.

    And furthermore anyone playing with a slim advantage as AP's do, encounters variance. That means even though they are playing with a slim edge, they sometimes lose.....even frequently lose. Someone claiming what is it 40 or 80 winning trips or even sessions in a row, is full of baloney.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 03-18-2020 at 12:04 PM.

  17. #397
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Am I not understanding or it is being implied that Mickeycrimm made a million dollars last year?
    You're not understanding.

    Do his sentiments, or the expression, really need to be explained?

    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    More power to you if you made a million in casinos last year.

  18. #398
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Mdawg wants to know why some AP's and others question his claims. I mean if AP's can claim to make money, why should anyone not believe he could? The answer is the math.
    Beside the real-time trip reports, the guy also posted his W/L statements.

    Are you still insisting that he could not have won what the documents show, because of the math?

  19. #399
    KewlJ, that's the most inane argument of all - saying that if someone bothers to post something high end on the internet it must be made up. What bothers you is that someone who stumbled upon a gambling forum might have a couple shekels, or again, what is it? What's the problem?

    Actually the way the posting of the watches and such started is that I was in this Baccarat tournament and I wanted to post my semifinal winning ticket and all I had with me to cover up my name and player number quickly on the slip at that moment was my watch. Plus also that watch I felt like it would establish conclusively that I was the person taking that picture. So yes that happened to be a mid to high five figure platinum Rolex, but that's what I had on me to cover up the info on the ticket. And somehow, it went from there and became like an MDawg trademark that with each picture of chips or markers I'd include a picture of whatever high end watch I was wearing that day. Then someone, I think it was AxelWolf, stated that he thought that platinum Rolex was a fake, so then I made a video where I weighed a small number of my watches to show their relative weights, to establish that they were in fact genuine and made of precious metals, which nobody out there is faking these types of Rolexes anyway not precious metal ones. And at the time, I wanted a certain member at WOV who was actually on my side and stating that my posts were genuine, and disclosed that he was a watchmaker and watch dealer, to view that video because he could verify instantly from the watch weights that all my watches were all genuine.

    In short, the posts, the pictures, came as some challenged my veracity. When I first started posting couple years ago I was actually surprised that anyone challenged me so vigorously. Evidently, not many on these forums win at casinos or else why would people think it is so implausible that someone could be both a lifetime and a short time WINNER.

    As far as jewelry posting pics, that was on one occasion only, I posted an image of this bracelet where I had banged the table with winning Baccarat cards so hard so many times I had bent open the clasp on an 18K gold VERY heavy link bracelet. That bracelet pic was part of the story. There won't be any more of Those pics in that I now leave all bracelets at home! or at the bank safe deposit boxes, and wear only necklaces (only one necklace at a time, no need to call a goddamn fashion police cop). My right hand must remain unfettered and ready to win with exuberance.

    Anyway you may see how these sorts of things grow on themselves. If anyone would have said a year or two ago, post some pics of your expensive timepieces I would have said go f. yourself. But, a year on down the line, and it seems harmless and enmeshed in the MDawg story, all posted with safety and anonymity.

    These are trip reports. Day by day, win by win, I post what happens. I tell it like it is. Skimming over the rest of these forums, I don't see any reason to believe anything anyone else has posted, in that NO one that I see has posted anywhere NEAR the level of proof I have of anything. Yet, I accept your play at face value. If you guys are slot cheats that scour crappy casinos to find advantage machine play, "AP"'ers who recruit the homeless to skim their freeplay off player cards, or card counting BJ players complaining of diminishing bankrolls, I accept it, why not?


    Maybe we all have a little too much time on our hands right now what with coronavirus shutting down everything. But even during a Vegas trip, busy as I might be, I find it almost as exhilarating to WRITE about a win, as to experience a win itself.

    Anyway what are you saying? That only low ends post trip reports? Very inane.


    Again: I am not doing this for a living. But if I lost at it, I would not do it at all.
    Last edited by MDawg; 03-18-2020 at 01:10 PM.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  20. #400
    One can only imagine the sadness, shock, hurt, and dumbfoundedness that Mdawg must be going thru right now, as every one of the casinos he beats the pants off of are now closed. Why, he can't even use all those comps!

    It just gots to be casino-karma.

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