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Thread: Tips for Caesar's Seven Stars Annual Trip

  1. #1
    * Updated December 28, 2015

    As a benefit of being a Seven Stars member, you get an "annual trip" to any North American Caesar's-owned property, plus airfare and a $500 food credit.

    However, it is not easy or convenient to book this. Here are some tips on getting it done fastest:


    Hotel Portion

    You will probably run into a lot of frustration trying to book this, as hosts love to pass the buck to one another. Call your host, and unless you've been giving them a ton of action lately, they will probably tell you to just call the property you want to visit. Then you'll call your property you want to visit, and they will tell you that you should call your host! This is what computer scientists like me call "an endless loop"!

    In reality, it is best to secure the hotel directly with the property you're visiting. Your "home casino" host can also do it, but the process will be slower, they may balk at doing this in the first place, and you will typically get inferior rooms/treatment because your host does not know the other property well.

    If you call the casino you're visiting, they will be more excited to have you there, as you are a Seven Stars member (i.e. a big gambler) and they want you there.

    Call the casino you're going to visit, ask for the host on duty, and explain that you want to book your Seven Stars trip. Do not let them pass the buck back to your home host. Tell them that you were told it's the destination property's responsibility to arrange this (which it is). Make sure you get an "Executive Casino Host", and not just some scrub.

    You will get 4 nights free, plus $500 to spend on food and drinks in their restaurants ONLY. You cannot use the $500 for the spa or anything else. At a few properties like Harrah's New Orleans, you get the $500 in RCs, which is obviously much better. If you get it in RCs, you don't have to spend any of it while on the trip. It's yours to keep. However, most properties will just give you a $500 food-and-beverage credit on your folio. Make sure they have down that they should add the $500 when arranging this on the phone. Get the host's name who is arranging it for you.

    Also, try to ask for a suite. They will usually give this to Seven Stars members on their annual trips, unless you're visiting during a holiday or event where they are otherwise booked up.

    There are no blackout dates for the Annual Trip. Do not let them deny you the trip just because you want to go over New Year's, or whatever.

    Secure the room FIRST, before moving on to the flight stuff.



    Booking Your Flight

    Caesar's will cover your airfare, up to $600 per person, for two people. You do not get any kind of "change" from the $600, so if you book a cheap flight (like $200), you are just saving Caesar's money. You are only entitled 2 airline tickets on the casino's dime, up to $600 each. If they run over $600, you pay the difference, though often they will forgive small overages (such as under $20). You can book first class, business class, economy plus, etc, so always price these out to see if they will come close to fitting within the $600 budget!

    This process is a pain in the ass. DO NOT COUNT ON YOUR HOST TO DO EVERYTHING FOR YOU, as they will not likely do an efficient job with it, and you will get a terrible flight with all kinds of stops (or at a lousy time of day).

    1) Research your itinerary on the internet first. Go to kayak.com first, then to southwest.com because they aren't included in kayak's results. You are looking to keep each ticket under $600 (or $1200 for one person). Try to find flights that are nonstop and most convenient for you without breaking over the $600 per person limit. Keep in mind that you can still book flights that cost more than $600, if you agree to pay the difference. If you barely go over, your host might choose to pay for the whole thing rather than force you to cover a difference under $50.

    2) Once you have found the flights you want, call Passport at 1-800-984-8004. Select "Total Rewards travel" on their menu. They are open Monday-Friday, 9:00am to 6:00pm Pacific time. Have them quickly verify that your flights can be booked through their system. They will almost always say yes. You will need your host to actually book it, though.

    3) E-mail your host your itinerary. The host needs to get involved at this point. Make sure to include the dates/times, flight numbers, airlines, and full passenger information, including first/middle/last names, dates of birth, and frequent flier #s. You should also state seating preferences, such as window/aisle/etc, as well as the fact that you don't want a non-reclining seat. Then call your host and ask him/her to e-mail it to Passport. If you don't want to call your host, you can also just wait for him/her to respond to their e-mail, if time isn't of the essence. However, don't wait too long, as airline prices can change (and move you past the $600 mark!)

    4) After your host agrees to e-mail passport, wait 24 hours. If you do not hear back from your host (with a forwarded e-mail from Passport, asking you to verify what they are going to book), call your host and ask if he/she has heard from Passport yet.

    5) Once you get the e-mail from Passport, go over it carefully and make sure everything is right. Make sure that you are assigned seats, and check where they are on the plane. If you don't like those seats, they can change them. If everything is fine, e-mail your host back and say that it's all fine.

    6) Within another 24 hours, you should get a confirmation that it's all booked. Call your host if you don't.

    Other useful flight-related info:

    Other useful info:

    - You can take your round trip through different airports. For example, if you want to fly to Atlantic City, but want to take your own little trip after that to Boston, you can do that without returning to Atlantic City for the flight home. Just find a flight that goes from your home airport to Atlantic City, and a return flight that goes from Boston back to your home. Provided the whole thing stays under $600, and the first flight is a "reasonable distance" from the casino destination (see below), Passport Travel will not object, and will approve this itinerary. They also don't care what dates you fly (as long as your hotel stay falls somewhere in between).

    - You are allowed to fly into any airport "within reasonable distance" from your destination Caesars hotel. For the most part, it means under 300 miles, though they might balk if you choose to fly into an airport which seems nonsensical for the trip (for example, if you fly into Jackson, MS when traveling to Harrah's New Orleans, despite a major New Orleans airport being right there.) Examples of reasonable distances would be flying into San Francisco when traveling to Lake Tahoe, Nashville when traveling to Harrah's Cherokee, NYC when traveling to Atlantic City, etc. That is, you don't have to utilize the closest airport. It does not matter which airport you use for the return flight. You could drive 1000 miles or more from the casino and fly back home from there, and Passport will not object!

    - If you want to take additional people, you have to pay. However, Passport will book the whole thing and make sure you get seats together (at your request).

    - The 30-day advance notice that they warn you about is BS. You can plan your annual trip much closer than 30 days. However, you should do it at least a few weeks in advance in order to keep the airfares under $600.



    Other Important General Info

    You already earned this trip. You are not required to play. Just relax and make a non-gambling vacation out of it, if you want. Since you will not be at your "home" property, this won't even affect your regular host.

    Some properties apply the $500 food and beverage to AFTER TAX, and some remove the tax entirely. Find out which one for sure, so you can best use your $500.

    Once your hotel reservation is done, your $500 disappears, too. Make sure you use it, even if you just visit the snack shop at the end and load up on chips, fruit, etc.

    Some restaurants associated with the hotel will allow you to use your $500, but do so at 2:1 (meaning you need to spend $2 to get $1 in value). This sucks, and should be avoided, unless you really have no use for the full $500. Just stick to the restaurants in the hotel that give 1:1.

    You will get a limo to and from the airport. This is free. They will NOT pay for any portion of a rental car, though. You need to call the property you're visiting to arrange the limo.

    You ARE allowed to combine your Seven Stars Annual Cruise with this trip. If you go to a destination where Norwegian Cruises are nearby, consider "tacking on" the cruise to the end of your Seven Stars Annual Trip, and arrange your flight dates accordingly.

    Looking for a place to go? Not all Caesar's destinations are created equal! Check out this page: http://www.sevenstarsinsider.com/ ... Go down the left bar and click on the hotels that interest you, and you will get a great description of each property, aimed at Seven Stars members who are considering taking a trip there. Personally, I would recommend destinations with something to do, or ones that are close to other places you want to visit anyway. For example, last year I took my trip to Atlantic City, and then moved on to do a New York/New England trip, flying back from Boston. Don't waste this trip on some garbage like Kansas City (unless you have family there).

    You must travel to a different "market" than what is considered your home (or "dominant") property. That is, if your dominant property is Las Vegas, you cannot take this "trip" to Las Vegas, even if you live hundreds of miles away from Vegas.

    If don't want to travel to other casinos, don't waste this trip! You can use this for a free flight, even if you don't use the hotel part at all. Let's say you want to visit your mother in New York. Book your annual trip to Atlantic City, go through the above steps to book the flight, except make the filght in and out of JFK (this is allowed). Then after the flight is booked, call Atlantic City a few days before the trip and tell them you can't make it, and to give up your room to someone else. You can still take the flight, as that will already be booked and paid for! (Technically this isn't allowed, but people do it all the time, and Caesars never enforces it.)
    Last edited by Dan Druff; 09-16-2013 at 03:42 PM.
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  2. #2
    Interesting comments but when I spoke to my host about booking the annual trip it was not a problem. In fact, since most of my play now is at Rincon, Rincon is considered my "home casino" and now I can have an annual trip to Caesars with the food credit and airfare. But since I'd rather drive my host said to let her know what dates I want and the food credit will be on my account.

    Also, I was told that the annual trip cannot be used at your "home casino." But since most of my play has been at Rincon where I wouldn't stay anyway, this rule worked out perfectly for me.

  3. #3
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Interesting comments but when I spoke to my host about booking the annual trip it was not a problem. In fact, since most of my play now is at Rincon, Rincon is considered my "home casino" and now I can have an annual trip to Caesars with the food credit and airfare. But since I'd rather drive my host said to let her know what dates I want and the food credit will be on my account.

    Also, I was told that the annual trip cannot be used at your "home casino." But since most of my play has been at Rincon where I wouldn't stay anyway, this rule worked out perfectly for me.

    Yes, hosts can do it, but they often prefer not to, especially if it's a casino with which they're unfamiliar, and if you aren't putting in a whole lot of play recently.

    I didn't know your annual trip couldn't be in your home casino. Interesting.

    I will say that it would be a BIG MISTAKE to let your host handle the air reservations part of it, beyond what they absolutely have to do (that is, forward your e-mail to Passport and give permission to let you get it).

    If you let them pick the flights for you, they will usually grab the first (and cheapest) thing that shows up, and you'll be stuck making 2 connections and flying at 6am.

    Yes, you can say something like, "I'd like to fly between 10am and 7pm, and go nonstop", but they might pick an airline you don't like, seats you don't want, etc, etc.

    Last year I made the mistake of letting Passport pick just my seats, and of course I got stuck in non-reclining seats in the very back, right by the bathroom!

    And thanks to the lack of reclining, my 1-year-old son threw up! (I can't say for sure that's why, but he was stuck in a very uncomfortable position in his car seat, which we no longer use when he flies since that incident.)
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  4. #4
    I was told that the host must handle the air reservations because it goes through Caesars' travel agency.

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I was told that the host must handle the air reservations because it goes through Caesars' travel agency.
    I was told the same thing. I called Passport Travel and they said my host would have to book it- they could not book it with me. I did give them the flight numbers and then had the host call them.

    Also - at my trip at Paris Vegas earlier this year - they put the $500 to my room and I bought all sorts of stuff at the gift shop - luggage, alcohol, jackets and it was covered.

    When I did my trip to Lake Tahoe - they gave me a letter at check-in that stated which eateries were covered - Hard Rock Cafe was not included.

    Taking my 7 star trip for this year to Caesar's Windsor and wondering what it will be like.

  6. #6
    A quick question. Since there are obviously so many to choose from, what would be the best "home casino" to have in Vegas?

  7. #7
    Originally Posted by Perdition View Post
    A quick question. Since there are obviously so many to choose from, what would be the best "home casino" to have in Vegas?
    They all have different "price points." Let's start with gaming: When Caesars only has $25 craps, Flamingo can have $5 craps and Paris can have $10 craps. There are also differences in room rates. I couldn't possibly recommend one casino over another since there are so many individual preferences which go into picking a place to stay at.

    I go to Caesars now because I feel comfortable there. But I guess over time I would feel just as comfortable at Ballys or Paris. By the way I enjoyed craps at Ballys.

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    I don't think the home casino matters. Also, I didn't have a choice in it. I first got a Total Rewards card at Rio, so they designated that my home casino. I kept insisting that I should have my home as Caesar's (since that's where I mostly play), but they refused. I do have some host assigned to me at Caesar's whom I've never met.
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  9. #9
    Originally Posted by sassycat View Post
    I was told the same thing. I called Passport Travel and they said my host would have to book it- they could not book it with me. I did give them the flight numbers and then had the host call them.

    Also - at my trip at Paris Vegas earlier this year - they put the $500 to my room and I bought all sorts of stuff at the gift shop - luggage, alcohol, jackets and it was covered.

    When I did my trip to Lake Tahoe - they gave me a letter at check-in that stated which eateries were covered - Hard Rock Cafe was not included.

    Taking my 7 star trip for this year to Caesar's Windsor and wondering what it will be like.
    Maybe my instructions were not clear to everyone, since both you and Alan thought I was saying that you should book with Passport yourself.

    You're both right -- you can't.

    This is because Passport needs the authorization from a Caesar's employee (in this case, a host) to charge the flight to Caesar's rather than to you.

    So, yes, technically your host has to e-mail them and tell them to book it.

    HOWEVER, that does not mean you should let your host do the heavy lifting of figuring out which flight to book!

    YOU should research this on your own, pick the exact flight you want, and then e-mail ALL of the info to your host (airline, date, flight #, time, price, full passenger info with dates of birth), and they will simply forward that over to Passport and tell them, "Book this!"

    Then you get exactly what you want.
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  10. #10
    I got my TR card at Paris. Played a lot at Caesars and have a host there. Then recently I was told I was reassigned to Rincon as my home casino. Crazy system.

  11. #11
    You guys and all your "Passport Rewards" stuff and "TR" baloney.....all you have to do is WIN SOME MONEY and you won't have to worry about how to get this or that or this or that covered! And I just recently ate at the Hard Rock Café inside Harveys. Getting it "covered" was never a thought. I simply PAID FOR THE MEAL WITH SOME OF THE $20,000 I JUST WON FROM MY $5 ROYAL!

    If you guys were lucky enough to follow my column during the 8 years I wrote it, you'd have seen where one of the biggest scoldings I constantly laid on vp players was about how they for some strange reason, had zero problem losing $1000--then coming out crowing about getting a cruise and a flight in addition to some meals and rooms,"for free"....while blabbing on and on about their DIAMOND or SEVEN STARS STATUS!! Ridiculous. People simply will not ever learn. The casinos are not just giving this stuff away. You are paying dearly for it. And the CET system is the absolute BEST in roping people into their profit center and making them feel "good" about it. Strong, intelligent players learn, early on, how to win consistently and IGNORE the "freebies"--using them only if and when they are convenient on THEIR schedule, and not jumping for joy when sent free cruises or this or that. Puppets....that's all such people are, and CET is laughing behind the scenes, believe me. Again I will educate you for your own good---players who do exactly as the casinos want and expect (run to book lucrative-sounding offers with sweaty hands, use casino credit, use casino ATM's, USING CASINO HOSTS!, get reeled in time and again by the lure of "free stuff", tipping casino staff after hand-pays rather than learning how to ignore the intimidation or phony "friendship" displays) will almost always lose. The rest of us---and there aren't many---will win.
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 09-17-2013 at 12:37 PM.

  12. #12
    Rob Singer terribling up yet another thread.

    Rob, you raise a good point ONLY if the person is losing a lot of money in a quest for these comps, and has an expected loss greater than the comp value.

    However, if your expected losses are less than the comp values, OR if you are going to play anyway (regardless of comps), then it's perfectly fine (and in fact correct) to extract maximum value out of the casinos for these comps.

    Just to prove that you're full of crap, Caesar's has recently been taking measures AGAINST Seven Stars grinders such as myself, such as raising the tier score requirement, lowering tier accumulation on 9-6 JoB machines, etc. They have come to realize that there is a small (but growing) segment of their Seven Stars base that is actually reaping more in comps than they are losing in the process of getting there. If Caesar's was so confident with their existing system, they wouldn't be changing it and making it harder to accumulate these statuses.
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  13. #13
    Also LOL @ Caesar's Passport travel agency charging you a $10 booking fee per ticket. Doesn't matter if you fall below the $600 and don't have to book any additional people, but awful nickel-and-diming otherwise.

    I asked why, and Passport said, "We don't get commission from the airlines."

    Yeah right.

    Every crapola travel agency these days gets at least 5%.

    I even have one of those which gives me 5% kickback because they get 10%. No way Passport is getting zero for this.
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  14. #14
    Dan - on this upcomoing 7 star trip to Windsor- I actually did as you said. I found the dates, flights, etc. Flying out of my smaller home airport connecting through Dallas/Ft. Worth. The price on American Airlines website was $245 round trip to Detroit. Since it was so cheap, I asked my host at Windsor to upgrade to First Class (which was posted as $1266 for two) He email Passport and it came back at $1223 and he covered the difference.

    Tried to get my host at Vegas to do that but said he could not do that - only economy. Another example of who the host is.

    Also - on the home property. Supposedly it is the area where you have the most points. Mine used to switch back and forth between Lake Tahoe and Bossier City. Since I have more points at BC the last couple of years - it is now BC.

    I really appreciate the sharing of information - so thanks!

  15. #15
    You guys are proving my point--especially you Dan, and Alan hasn't even chimed in yet!

    "Expected losses?" Who in their right mind goes in expecting to lose? "Gonna play anyway?" No one goes to any Ceasars property under that premise. Cardholders with that oh-so-special 7-Stars status only go in when they get ROPED IN on some offer of some sort. So stop trying to justify your being controlled by CET. I'm not your mother.

    Bob Dancer's been stuttering thru trying to explain how and why he's been 7-Stars at Harrahs for years, usually after ripping them a new one for never having anything - and this is funny - "beatable" or "worthwhile" to play. So your pretend notion about how CET is worried sick about "grinders" is more deserving of the title "legends in their own minds".

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    You guys are proving my point--especially you Dan, and Alan hasn't even chimed in yet!

    "Expected losses?" Who in their right mind goes in expecting to lose? "Gonna play anyway?" No one goes to any Ceasars property under that premise. Cardholders with that oh-so-special 7-Stars status only go in when they get ROPED IN on some offer of some sort. So stop trying to justify your being controlled by CET. I'm not your mother.

    Bob Dancer's been stuttering thru trying to explain how and why he's been 7-Stars at Harrahs for years, usually after ripping them a new one for never having anything - and this is funny - "beatable" or "worthwhile" to play. So your pretend notion about how CET is worried sick about "grinders" is more deserving of the title "legends in their own minds".
    Sometimes I wonder if you really believe the crap you write, or if you are just an extended troll job across several forums. If you are just trolling, congrats, as you have roped yet another person into arguing with you.

    Let me put it in simple terms that a 3rd grader could understand:

    Let's say you determined that you could reach Seven Stars with an expected loss of $2400. That means, on average, you will make Seven Stars and be $2400 down.

    But let's say you determine the value of Seven Stars -- between the comps, trips, free play, gifts, and everything else, to be worth $10,000.

    Now, you take $10,000, subtract $2400, and you will be up an average of $7600 for the whole venture.

    That is why people do this.

    Others (like Alan) do it because they enjoy video poker, and they are happy to take the freebies from the casino in order to lessen the expected loss.

    Furthermore, if Caesar's was not concerned about Seven Stars grinders taking advantage of their program, they wouldn't keep adjusting the rules, year after year, specifically aimed at making it difficult for these grinders to achieve Seven Stars easily.

    I agree that for MOST gamblers, the whole Seven Stars thing is a genius marketing concept by Caesar's, as it makes people feel special (and allows them to enjoy the "freebies") while losing tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars (or more!)

    However, even those suckers should still take advantage of the freebies, as if you don't, you are letting Caesar's keep money/value that should otherwise be yours.

    I have no idea why you can't understand such simple concepts.
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  17. #17
    Originally Posted by sassycat View Post
    Dan - on this upcomoing 7 star trip to Windsor- I actually did as you said. I found the dates, flights, etc. Flying out of my smaller home airport connecting through Dallas/Ft. Worth. The price on American Airlines website was $245 round trip to Detroit. Since it was so cheap, I asked my host at Windsor to upgrade to First Class (which was posted as $1266 for two) He email Passport and it came back at $1223 and he covered the difference.

    Tried to get my host at Vegas to do that but said he could not do that - only economy. Another example of who the host is.

    Also - on the home property. Supposedly it is the area where you have the most points. Mine used to switch back and forth between Lake Tahoe and Bossier City. Since I have more points at BC the last couple of years - it is now BC.

    I really appreciate the sharing of information - so thanks!
    Interesting story. I never even knew that first class was restricted. Pretty dumb. $600 should be $600, but I guess they're trying to get away cheap on people who aren't traveling far.

    I actually had a very similar experience, except my COACH fare was slightly over $600 each! I think the host wiped out the difference, which I actually wasn't expecting.

    What will you be doing in Windsor, btw? I considered going there, but outside of Niagara Falls (which isn't even that close), I don't see much to do in the area, unless you want to visit the ruins of Detroit!
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  18. #18
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Interesting story. I never even knew that first class was restricted. Pretty dumb. $600 should be $600, but I guess they're trying to get away cheap on people who aren't traveling far.

    I actually had a very similar experience, except my COACH fare was slightly over $600 each! I think the host wiped out the difference, which I actually wasn't expecting.

    What will you be doing in Windsor, btw? I considered going there, but outside of Niagara Falls (which isn't even that close), I don't see much to do in the area, unless you want to visit the ruins of Detroit!
    We have never been there and it is still so hot here in East Texas that we felt that it would be a nice cool place to visit. The views look really pretty and we will probably stroll into downtown down the riverwalk most nights. We plan on going over to Detroit to see Motown and the rest of the time relaxing and enjoying the weather and a little gaming. Our host got us tickets to see Lionel Richie on the last night. The concert venue holds about 5000 and we have never seen him but I have always wanted to.

    Thank you for starting the thread and sorry that some people have to be so nasty about it. Forums like this is where we can learn things that we would never know. We should not be afraid to give input and ask questions without being belittled.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if you really believe the crap you write, or if you are just an extended troll job across several forums. If you are just trolling, congrats, as you have roped yet another person into arguing with you.

    Let me put it in simple terms that a 3rd grader could understand:

    Let's say you determined that you could reach Seven Stars with an expected loss of $2400. That means, on average, you will make Seven Stars and be $2400 down.

    But let's say you determine the value of Seven Stars -- between the comps, trips, free play, gifts, and everything else, to be worth $10,000.

    Now, you take $10,000, subtract $2400, and you will be up an average of $7600 for the whole venture.

    That is why people do this.

    Others (like Alan) do it because they enjoy video poker, and they are happy to take the freebies from the casino in order to lessen the expected loss.

    Furthermore, if Caesar's was not concerned about Seven Stars grinders taking advantage of their program, they wouldn't keep adjusting the rules, year after year, specifically aimed at making it difficult for these grinders to achieve Seven Stars easily.

    I agree that for MOST gamblers, the whole Seven Stars thing is a genius marketing concept by Caesar's, as it makes people feel special (and allows them to enjoy the "freebies") while losing tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars (or more!)

    However, even those suckers should still take advantage of the freebies, as if you don't, you are letting Caesar's keep money/value that should otherwise be yours.

    I have no idea why you can't understand such simple concepts.
    And you just expanded on your overall inexperience in how to be a strong & winning player.

    One should NEVER, EVER consider the perceived value of comps, freeplay, and other "goodies" as any sort of consolation for losing money gambling. That is exactly what the casinos want you to do. No smart player wants to or expects to lose. Ever. To justify a loss by self-valuing comps and freebies is nothing but a desperate act. Consider examining your method of play instead. It's clear Alan has more money than a drive to do better. That's a personal choice, and he's not pushing excuses for losing - then covering it up with slot club fluff.

    Every casino has been adjusting their rules, mostly due to belt-tightening, since they've opened. That's how business works. It has nothing to do with "grinders" or anyone "hammerring them". It's simple business decisions to get the profit margins up. That's what casinos are, businesses.

  20. #20
    My experience is that the Windsor property is a very nice and comfortable place to spend a few days. Nothing else to do on that side of the river other than the very interesting distillery tour down the road. Skip the Detroit visit. It looks impressive from your room window, but you're just asking for trouble if you go over there. Detroit is basically in lawless ruins compared to other US cities. The best I can compare the feeling of walking around Motown is my two days in Chechnya. That's what you get when you let civil rights-loving liberals run a city.
    Last edited by Rob.Singer; 09-17-2013 at 05:36 PM.

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