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  1. #61
    Must be a difference in the behavior of these games according to there RTP setting, I have played these quite a bit at a place known for having machines set at 85% RTP and I have not or rarely seen the same behavior as being described here.

    IE grand is not progressive stays @8000, Rarely or never see a screen with a major loaded and have never seen anyone get a full screen bingo, I know this is a small sample but sure seems to be different from what I see.

  2. #62
    Originally Posted by SplitEm View Post
    Must be a difference in the behavior of these games according to there RTP setting, I have played these quite a bit at a place known for having machines set at 85% RTP and I have not or rarely seen the same behavior as being described here.
    Same here.

    1) The machines here, the grand, major, maxi, minor, and mini are ALL FIXED AMOUNTS. They are NOT progressives.

    2) In the year and a half they've been here, I've seen a major on the board only 4 times.

  3. #63
    Took a Micky approved Maxi play @ 3.75, +26.7 units, something like 123 spins.

  4. #64
    Curiously have any player-posters with credibility seen the whole screen get hit at once?

    I've heard of it, but not sure if anyone I know has personally seen it, so I have to wonder....

    Also I have a sample of a few plays I can throw into the pile, but I have to look at phone pics and I'm lazy.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  5. #65
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Curiously have any player-posters with credibility seen the whole screen get hit at once?

    I've heard of it, but not sure if anyone I know has personally seen it, so I have to wonder....

    Also I have a sample of a few plays I can throw into the pile, but I have to look at phone pics and I'm lazy.

    I have numerous times. Once I had it happen twice on the same bank. Not same machine though.
    FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Curiously have any player-posters with credibility seen the whole screen get hit at once?

    I've heard of it, but not sure if anyone I know has personally seen it, so I have to wonder....

    Also I have a sample of a few plays I can throw into the pile, but I have to look at phone pics and I'm lazy.
    Not sure if I’m considered as someone with credibility or not but I did have it happen to me one time.

    Never seen it happen to me or anyone else before or since & didn’t even know it was possible until it happened.

  7. #67
    I have enough stats now that I'm about 99% sure that a coordinated Maxi makes money while an uncoordinated Maxi doesn't.

    Logic says the lines a coordinated Maxi is in have a leg up on being the first to bingo. That's based in gaming regulations that say everything has to be random. The coordinated Maxi being only 3 away from the Bingo compared to the rest being 4 away means a Maxi line will be the first to bingo a high percentage of the time.

    Right now I'm at 5 bingo's in 13 plays on the coordinated Maxi's and have a 234 unit lead. But I'll continue to collect the stats on these plays to further clarify.

    With uncoordinated Maxi's I've hit 1 Bingo in 10 plays and I'm at negative 232 units. That's enough information for me. Time to quit playing the uncoordinated Maxi's.

    I found the play in the pic below as is. Notice the Maxi meter and Mini meter are the only two meters on the board. That means they were there from reset. The Maxi is uncoordinated with the free spot but is coordinated with the Mini. That means it's only 3 to a bingo. And that means I have the green light on the play when I find it this way.
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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #68
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Curiously have any player-posters with credibility seen the whole screen get hit at once?

    I've heard of it, but not sure if anyone I know has personally seen it, so I have to wonder....

    Also I have a sample of a few plays I can throw into the pile, but I have to look at phone pics and I'm lazy.
    In person, once. Pictures, a few times.

  9. #69
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Logic says the lines a coordinated Maxi is in have a leg up on being the first to bingo. That's based in gaming regulations that say everything has to be random. The coordinated Maxi being only 3 away from the Bingo compared to the rest being 4 away means a Maxi line will be the first to bingo a high percentage of the time.
    My experience tells me the new coins are fairly random on Cashman, but regarding the bolded, is this actually true? Have you ever played or heard of Prize Pool? 100.00% it skews the collection symbols away from the maxed out gold blocks. But they are symbols that appear on the reels just like the coins on Cashman.

  10. #70
    Originally Posted by NVF View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Logic says the lines a coordinated Maxi is in have a leg up on being the first to bingo. That's based in gaming regulations that say everything has to be random. The coordinated Maxi being only 3 away from the Bingo compared to the rest being 4 away means a Maxi line will be the first to bingo a high percentage of the time.
    My experience tells me the new coins are fairly random on Cashman, but regarding the bolded, is this actually true? Have you ever played or heard of Prize Pool? 100.00% it skews the collection symbols away from the maxed out gold blocks. But they are symbols that appear on the reels just like the coins on Cashman.
    Recently I've played 4 Maxis that were in line with the wheel on an otherwise naked board (no cash coins). So far I'm 3 for 4 in hitting the line with the Maxi.

  11. #71
    I’m 0-6 going for uncoordinated maxis and stuck 170 units. Not looking good for the uncoordinated maxi play.

  12. #72
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Curiously have any player-posters with credibility seen the whole screen get hit at once?

    I've heard of it, but not sure if anyone I know has personally seen it, so I have to wonder....

    Also I have a sample of a few plays I can throw into the pile, but I have to look at phone pics and I'm lazy.

    I hope to have credibility someday.

  13. #73
    Originally Posted by NVF View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Logic says the lines a coordinated Maxi is in have a leg up on being the first to bingo. That's based in gaming regulations that say everything has to be random. The coordinated Maxi being only 3 away from the Bingo compared to the rest being 4 away means a Maxi line will be the first to bingo a high percentage of the time.
    My experience tells me the new coins are fairly random on Cashman, but regarding the bolded, is this actually true? Have you ever played or heard of Prize Pool? 100.00% it skews the collection symbols away from the maxed out gold blocks. But they are symbols that appear on the reels just like the coins on Cashman.
    Weighted random. Cashman works the same way. Cashman actually is not a bingo game. It just looks similar to bingo.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #74
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by NVF View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Logic says the lines a coordinated Maxi is in have a leg up on being the first to bingo. That's based in gaming regulations that say everything has to be random. The coordinated Maxi being only 3 away from the Bingo compared to the rest being 4 away means a Maxi line will be the first to bingo a high percentage of the time.
    My experience tells me the new coins are fairly random on Cashman, but regarding the bolded, is this actually true? Have you ever played or heard of Prize Pool? 100.00% it skews the collection symbols away from the maxed out gold blocks. But they are symbols that appear on the reels just like the coins on Cashman.
    Weighted random. Cashman works the same way. Cashman actually is not a bingo game. It just looks similar to bingo.
    Exactly. Case in point is that pattern I pointed out earlier in the thread.

  15. #75
    Originally Posted by LuckAsAnArt View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Curiously have any player-posters with credibility seen the whole screen get hit at once?

    I've heard of it, but not sure if anyone I know has personally seen it, so I have to wonder....

    Also I have a sample of a few plays I can throw into the pile, but I have to look at phone pics and I'm lazy.

    I hope to have credibility someday.
    Well you need more than 1 post a year.

    Lol at people bothering to comment because I used that word. I'm just suggesting that someone who has never posted coming up and claiming things should be discounted. The subject in question was silly so I guess it wouldn't really matter in this case. sheeeesh
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  16. #76
    I still feel this game seems so unnaturally gaffed that it won't get that much play and be removed. You go through a few bingo cycles where it is yanking you round with the nonsense and you're likely to not enjoy yourself IMO.

    Lots of games are like this, but you don't see the gaff in play every other spin and keeping you from what is CLEARLY the objective.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

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    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I still feel this game seems so unnaturally gaffed that it won't get that much play and be removed.
    Agree with the first part, not sure about the conclusion.

    I looked through the Nevada regs. There's one sentence that video poker players rely on for fairness. From reg 14.04, item #5:

    For gaming devices that are representative of live gambling games, the mathematical probability
    of a symbol or other element appearing in a game outcome must be equal to the mathematical probability
    of that symbol or element occurring in the live gambling game.
    But my impression is if they avoid representing live games, designers can do almost anything they want within the broad framework of a randomly selected outcome. We can only make educated guesses, afaik.

  18. #78
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I still feel this game seems so unnaturally gaffed that it won't get that much play and be removed. You go through a few bingo cycles where it is yanking you round with the nonsense and you're likely to not enjoy yourself IMO.

    Lots of games are like this, but you don't see the gaff in play every other spin and keeping you from what is CLEARLY the objective.
    Gaffing as defined by gaming regulations is illegal. What do you think is gaffed?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  19. #79
    The gaming reg is referring to a deck of cards, a roulette ball, dice, bingo balls. There are no bingo balls in Cashman Bingo.

    It appears to me that the probabilities of the symbols coming out into the squares is a shorter frequency when most of the squares are blank than when half or more of the squares are filled. What some are calling "gaffed" is nothing more than weighted randomness which is quite legal under gaming regulations.

    The game is quite beatable by knowledgeable players. But thinking about it as a bingo game, and having the same probabilities as a bingo game, is not right.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  20. #80
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I still feel this game seems so unnaturally gaffed that it won't get that much play and be removed. You go through a few bingo cycles where it is yanking you round with the nonsense and you're likely to not enjoy yourself IMO.

    Lots of games are like this, but you don't see the gaff in play every other spin and keeping you from what is CLEARLY the objective.
    Gaffing as defined by gaming regulations is illegal. What do you think is gaffed?
    Certainly no expert but I believe there is a way to legally do it but maybe “gaffing” isn’t the right word. Could it be similar to the Must Hits like River Dragon that are weighted to almost always run to the end, but theoretically can be hit on any spin?

    Could someone like this be done on a game like CB where it’s harder to fill the last spot?

    Again just a thought and no programming experience to back it up. But I agree with accounting that it appears something is up that isn’t totally random.

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