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  1. #101
    Look Crimm, my ONLY issue with you is your defending Singer and now ALL his positions, that you KNOW are BS, because you, yourself spent over a decade debunking and arguing against these very same voodoo BS claims.

    It started with you saying you believed the double up bug claim because Singer knew the sequence in the article was intentionally incorrect (probably at the insistence of the machine maker). Singer "said" he knows the correct sequence. First has it been proven that the sequence he claims is correct? I have seen no proof of that. But even if it is correct, as I have said before there are many ways for someone to have come into this info, now almost a decade after the fact. Knowing that sequence now, 10-15 years later in no way proves that he knew it and played the double up bug back then.

    But so be all that. You believe (or claim to) him in regards to the double up bug. You are NOW defending him, in regard to all his claims, by attacking those that continue to point out that the math doesn't work. These are the very same challenges you made of him for decades, so I know you don't really believe what you are defending. You are just being a dick!

    And the worse part is you are using Singer's playbook. When the math and reality is against you as it is now that you are defending Singer, all you can do is attack people on a personal level. And you do that with your homophobic rants. Not just me but at MaxPen and redietz and anyone that points out that the math doesn't work. This is the exact play that Singer himself did for years and now Mdawg and others do. You have joined THAT club, Crimm. You must be very proud.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  2. #102
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I've harangued Spike on GF but hardly anyone else has. More people need to.
    Well, I certainly have.

    see, e.g.: https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...en-boob.23850/
    What, Me Worry?

  3. #103
    I don't follow Spike/Evenbob as closely as some of you. This will be a little hard to explain, but what it comes down to for me is that I never felt like Spike/EB actually believes the stuff he writes. I see him as a lonely old man, who lives alone and spends a great deal of time alone, who gets enjoyment out of saying things that will get others riled up and engage with him. I just don't see a lot of harm to anyone, except for wasted time.

    Now some of that argument can be applied to Singer. He certainly doesn't believe what he writes, because....well it isn't true. And he does enjoy the argument, the attention, just like Spike. But what is different is that Singer, as well as someone like Mdawg, really wants, even needs others to believe their nonsense. So while they don't believe it because they know it is not true, the effort they put in trying to get others to believe is where there can be harm to others and I feel like needs to be called out and debunked.

    I mean take Singer. Look at the extent he goes to. Buying "prop cash" to take pictures of. Driving down to the RV dealership pretending to be a customer to take pictures. He took out an ad in the RV trader for an RV that didn't exist, using those pictures from the dealership, that he now admits was not his RV. He had two books published, I believe at a cost to himself. Let's not even get into this latest charade of the picture of the non $1.5 million dollar hit. I mean come on.

    THAT is the difference between someone like Spike, who doesn't believe a word he says and is just seeking the attention and someone like Singer (and Mdawg) who also knows what they claim is BS, but wants or has some need for people to believe them.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 07-18-2022 at 10:36 AM.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  4. #104
    EB / Spike made his bones (and his enemies) at the now defunct gambling board Gamblers Glen.

    Many posters there have followed him around and continue to engage with him in an attempt to cut through his firewall of stupidity.

    He's harmless, but so are Rob and douchedawg: just words on a screen.
    What, Me Worry?

  5. #105
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post

    He's harmless, but so are Rob and douchedawg: just words on a screen.
    You say they are harmless MrV. I don't agree.

    On this forum there was a member name Slingshot, who admits to trying to play Singer's progression system.

    At WoV there was that guy (now banned), I forget his handle, who claimed to be a pit boss or something at a Midwest casino that was attempting to play baccarat and emulate Mdawg.

    And these are just two that publicly admit it. Who knows how many more have been harmed but never said anything. I remember Moses, made a post at WoV asking if Mdawg could teach him his "system".

    Rob published books! He also claims to have privately taught people his strategy, although when pressed, couldn't produce a single "student". But who knows? I think more people than you realize can be hurt by these types of claims. And some of that is on them. If people are so stupid....well.... . But I do feel like there should at least be some push back from real players and math "people", saying "hey what you are claiming can't be true". That way the gullible people reading at least get that.

    Especially at WoV. I mean based on Shacklefords reputation as a legitimate math guy, someone showing up reading Mdawgs BS claims, and seeing no pushback, because Mdawg is protected, and pushback isn't allowed....well it amounts to an endorsement by Wizard himself.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  6. #106
    The more of these losers in casinos following what guys like Singer and Dawg do, the better for me!

  7. #107
    KJ, that is really no different than playing any system you read about.

    They probably lost, but they're playing negative expectation games so that shouldn't be a surprise.

    Trying a system and losing is not the type of "hurt" I envisioned when I used the term; I meant painful, damaging results, not just loss of money and time.

    Really, these guys were just carnival barkers trying to drum up interest in their two-headed calf.
    What, Me Worry?

  8. #108
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post

    He's harmless, but so are Rob and douchedawg: just words on a screen.
    You say they are harmless MrV. I don't agree.

    On this forum there was a member name Slingshot, who admits to trying to play Singer's progression system.

    At WoV there was that guy (now banned), I forget his handle, who claimed to be a pit boss or something at a Midwest casino that was attempting to play baccarat and emulate Mdawg.

    And these are just two that publicly admit it. Who knows how many more have been harmed but never said anything. I remember Moses, made a post at WoV asking if Mdawg could teach him his "system".

    Rob published books! He also claims to have privately taught people his strategy, although when pressed, couldn't produce a single "student". But who knows? I think more people than you realize can be hurt by these types of claims. And some of that is on them. If people are so stupid....well.... . But I do feel like there should at least be some push back from real players and math "people", saying "hey what you are claiming can't be true". That way the gullible people reading at least get that.

    Especially at WoV. I mean based on Shacklefords reputation as a legitimate math guy, someone showing up reading Mdawgs BS claims, and seeing no pushback, because Mdawg is protected, and pushback isn't allowed....well it amounts to an endorsement by Wizard himself.
    Slingshot is/was a low level, recreational gambler (and nice guy) who used a version of Rob’s “system”. Whatever that is. Meaning, he put his own spin on things.
    I’m going to go out on a limb and say he was was never “hurt or harmed” no more than anyone else playing negative EV games.
    Last I heard from sling, he was defending his presidential pick of Joe Biden. And slingshot is a conservative.
    Talk about being harmed.

  9. #109
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    If you are so against guys that defy the math then why haven't you posted even once in the roulette threads at Gambling Forums? Spike/Evenbob claims to beat roulette everyday. Not a peed from you.
    Very simple reason: I don't play roulette. I don't believe I have ever placed a single wager on roulette. So why would I have any comment about roulette? Similarly, I don't play, nor have never even bet a single bet on craps, so you don't see me commenting on Craps or the many dice control discussions.

    It so happens that GF unlike here or WoV breaks its gambling topics into different sub sections for each game. So I don't even read the sections for games I don't play or know.

    What a strange argument you are making Crimm, that because I have called out Singer's BS, as you did for over a decade, that I should be running around to every forum, calling out everyone. Mickey, I take you at your word that you no longer drink. But maybe you should take it up again. You made a hell of a lot more sense when you were drinking than you do these days.
    You don't play baccarat either but that didn't stop you from going after MDawg.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #110
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Look Crimm, my ONLY issue with you is your defending Singer and now ALL his positions, that you KNOW are BS, because you, yourself spent over a decade debunking and arguing against these very same voodoo BS claims.

    It started with you saying you believed the double up bug claim because Singer knew the sequence in the article was intentionally incorrect (probably at the insistence of the machine maker). Singer "said" he knows the correct sequence. First has it been proven that the sequence he claims is correct? I have seen no proof of that. But even if it is correct, as I have said before there are many ways for someone to have come into this info, now almost a decade after the fact. Knowing that sequence now, 10-15 years later in no way proves that he knew it and played the double up bug back then.

    But so be all that. You believe (or claim to) him in regards to the double up bug. You are NOW defending him, in regard to all his claims, by attacking those that continue to point out that the math doesn't work. These are the very same challenges you made of him for decades, so I know you don't really believe what you are defending. You are just being a dick!

    And the worse part is you are using Singer's playbook. When the math and reality is against you as it is now that you are defending Singer, all you can do is attack people on a personal level. And you do that with your homophobic rants. Not just me but at MaxPen and redietz and anyone that points out that the math doesn't work. This is the exact play that Singer himself did for years and now Mdawg and others do. You have joined THAT club, Crimm. You must be very proud.
    I've never defended Singer. I simply point out your grasping at straws logic. And call you out on your lies. You have one long fucking nose....and it keeps getting longer. I've never said I "believe" Singer worked the double up bug. I said it was likely. Thats a long way from saying "I believe." You always change what people say to fit your narrative. Cease and desist. I wasn't there. How could I know for sure? But more to the point, how the fuck could YOU know for sure?

    That's your problem, KJocchio. While everyone else doesn't know for sure....YOU.KNOW.FOR.SURE.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 07-18-2022 at 03:55 PM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #111
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    You don't play baccarat either but that didn't stop you from going after MDawg.
    Ok, I don't know if you read the Mdawg claims or not, but roughly a third of his claims have been about blackjack play and over the last 8 months, over 50%...more blackjack play than baccarat. His claims of his blackjack play are absolutely ridiculous, as he claims to play almost exclusively at the sweatiest Las Vegas Casino, Cosmopolitan, which uses the most up to date technology and is the probably the biggest single contributor to the databases. he claims to have won hundreds of thousands of dollars playing the high limit room, where all eyes are on him, and they simply look the other way and pat him on the back.

    But even before he expanded into the blackjack arena, my "going after him" wasn't specifically about any claims of his baccarat play. It was in regard to all his winning, a solid years worth of winning almost every day, while being comped luxurious suites, meals and other perks for a solid year (less 2 weeks in December when he returned to California). I don't care what game you are playing; they don't allow you to win every single day, hundreds of thousands of dollars, or close to a million this last trip AND comp you suites for a solid year on top of it. That simply is NOT the way Las Vegas works mickeycrimm and you know it.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I've never defended Singer. I simply point out your grasping at straws logic. And call you out on your lies. You have one long fucking nose....and it keeps getting longer. I've never said I "believe" Singer worked the double up bug. I said it was likely. Thats a long way from saying "I believe." You always change what people say to fit your narrative. Cease and desist. I wasn't there. How could I know for sure? But more to the point, how the fuck could YOU know for sure?

    That's your problem, KJocchio. While everyone else doesn't know for sure....YOU.KNOW.FOR.SURE.
    Ok, lets just cut to the chase. Time for you to go on the record. Do you believe Singer won nearly 3 million playing the double up bug? And why we are at it, I will circle back to the question I asked this morning that you conveniently ignored. Do you believe the cash in Singer's pictures is real?
    Last edited by kewlJ; 07-18-2022 at 04:59 PM.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  12. #112
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    You don't play baccarat either but that didn't stop you from going after MDawg.
    Ok, I don't know if you read the Mdawg claims or not, but roughly a third of his claims have been about blackjack play and over the last 8 months, over 50%...more blackjack play than baccarat. His claims of his blackjack play are absolutely ridiculous, as he claims to play almost exclusively at the sweatiest Las Vegas Casino, Cosmopolitan, which uses the most up to date technology and is the probably the biggest single contributor to the databases. he claims to have won hundreds of thousands of dollars playing the high limit room, where all eyes are on him, and they simply look the other way and pat him on the back.

    But even before he expanded into the blackjack arena, my "going after him" wasn't specifically about any claims of his baccarat play. It was in regard to all his winning, a solid years worth of winning almost every day, while being comped luxurious suites, meals and other perks for a solid year (less 2 weeks in December when he returned to California). I don't care what game you are playing; they don't allow you to win every single day, hundreds of thousands of dollars, or close to a million this last trip AND comp you suites for a solid year on top of it. That simply is NOT the way Las Vegas works mickeycrimm and you know it.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I've never defended Singer. I simply point out your grasping at straws logic. And call you out on your lies. You have one long fucking nose....and it keeps getting longer. I've never said I "believe" Singer worked the double up bug. I said it was likely. Thats a long way from saying "I believe." You always change what people say to fit your narrative. Cease and desist. I wasn't there. How could I know for sure? But more to the point, how the fuck could YOU know for sure?

    That's your problem, KJocchio. While everyone else doesn't know for sure....YOU.KNOW.FOR.SURE.
    Ok, lets just cut to the chase. Time for you to go on the record. Do you believe Singer won nearly 3 million playing the double up bug? And why we are at it, I will circle back to the question I asked this morning that you conveniently ignored. Do you believe the cash in Singer's pictures is real?
    Mickey "has no reason to disbelieve him." There's a quote for the ages.

  13. #113
    I don't know....when he had his heart attack, did he lose his memory?

    He has dealt with Singer as long as anybody and should have every reason not to believe him based on that history.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  14. #114
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I don't know....when he had his heart attack, did he lose his memory?

    He has dealt with Singer as long as anybody and should have every reason not to believe him based on that history.
    Rob broke Mickey's ass down and made him his bitch....RIP
    FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP

  15. #115
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    You don't play baccarat either but that didn't stop you from going after MDawg.
    Ok, I don't know if you read the Mdawg claims or not, but roughly a third of his claims have been about blackjack play and over the last 8 months, over 50%...more blackjack play than baccarat. His claims of his blackjack play are absolutely ridiculous, as he claims to play almost exclusively at the sweatiest Las Vegas Casino, Cosmopolitan, which uses the most up to date technology and is the probably the biggest single contributor to the databases. he claims to have won hundreds of thousands of dollars playing the high limit room, where all eyes are on him, and they simply look the other way and pat him on the back.

    But even before he expanded into the blackjack arena, my "going after him" wasn't specifically about any claims of his baccarat play. It was in regard to all his winning, a solid years worth of winning almost every day, while being comped luxurious suites, meals and other perks for a solid year (less 2 weeks in December when he returned to California). I don't care what game you are playing; they don't allow you to win every single day, hundreds of thousands of dollars, or close to a million this last trip AND comp you suites for a solid year on top of it. That simply is NOT the way Las Vegas works mickeycrimm and you know it.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I've never defended Singer. I simply point out your grasping at straws logic. And call you out on your lies. You have one long fucking nose....and it keeps getting longer. I've never said I "believe" Singer worked the double up bug. I said it was likely. Thats a long way from saying "I believe." You always change what people say to fit your narrative. Cease and desist. I wasn't there. How could I know for sure? But more to the point, how the fuck could YOU know for sure?

    That's your problem, KJocchio. While everyone else doesn't know for sure....YOU.KNOW.FOR.SURE.
    Ok, lets just cut to the chase. Time for you to go on the record. Do you believe Singer won nearly 3 million playing the double up bug? And why we are at it, I will circle back to the question I asked this morning that you conveniently ignored. Do you believe the cash in Singer's pictures is real?
    Unlike YOU, I don't know if Singer won 3 mil or not. I wasn't there. And unlike YOU I don't know if the money in the pic is real or not. I have better things to do than try to examine a fucking picture to determine if the money in it is real or not.
    You, maxiepad and redietz didn't know what the fuck prop cash was until Boz revealed it. Then you three started posting about prop cash like you were long term experts on it. Fuck off.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #116
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I don't know....when he had his heart attack, did he lose his memory?

    He has dealt with Singer as long as anybody and should have every reason not to believe him based on that history.
    Rob broke Mickey's ass down and made him his bitch....RIP
    No. Rob made YOU his bitch. Along with KJocchio and the Ditz. All three of you are Rob's bitches. When he says SHIT!!! all three of you guys start squatting.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  17. #117
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Ok, I don't know if you read the Mdawg claims or not, but roughly a third of his claims have been about blackjack play and over the last 8 months, over 50%...more blackjack play than baccarat. His claims of his blackjack play are absolutely ridiculous, as he claims to play almost exclusively at the sweatiest Las Vegas Casino, Cosmopolitan, which uses the most up to date technology and is the probably the biggest single contributor to the databases. he claims to have won hundreds of thousands of dollars playing the high limit room, where all eyes are on him, and they simply look the other way and pat him on the back.

    But even before he expanded into the blackjack arena, my "going after him" wasn't specifically about any claims of his baccarat play. It was in regard to all his winning, a solid years worth of winning almost every day, while being comped luxurious suites, meals and other perks for a solid year (less 2 weeks in December when he returned to California). I don't care what game you are playing; they don't allow you to win every single day, hundreds of thousands of dollars, or close to a million this last trip AND comp you suites for a solid year on top of it. That simply is NOT the way Las Vegas works mickeycrimm and you know it.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I've never defended Singer. I simply point out your grasping at straws logic. And call you out on your lies. You have one long fucking nose....and it keeps getting longer. I've never said I "believe" Singer worked the double up bug. I said it was likely. Thats a long way from saying "I believe." You always change what people say to fit your narrative. Cease and desist. I wasn't there. How could I know for sure? But more to the point, how the fuck could YOU know for sure?

    That's your problem, KJocchio. While everyone else doesn't know for sure....YOU.KNOW.FOR.SURE.
    Ok, lets just cut to the chase. Time for you to go on the record. Do you believe Singer won nearly 3 million playing the double up bug? And why we are at it, I will circle back to the question I asked this morning that you conveniently ignored. Do you believe the cash in Singer's pictures is real?
    Unlike YOU, I don't know if Singer won 3 mil or not. I wasn't there. And unlike YOU I don't know if the money in the pic is real or not. I have better things to do than try to examine a fucking picture to determine if the money in it is real or not.
    You, maxiepad and redietz didn't know what the fuck prop cash was until Boz revealed it. Then you three started posting about prop cash like you were long term experts on it. Fuck off.

    This is what I mean. Mickey makes stuff up. He can't be trusted to report the truth.

    I didn't have much of anything to say about the prop cash. I'm no expert. I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert.

    Obviously, some people, including some of my filmmaker friends, know quite a bit about it. A good friend was housemate with the prop guy for a bunch of TV shows, including Bay City Blues. That guy's father had been prop manager for the Andy Griffith Show. I don't know anything about props, but it's easy enough to ask around. Since Rob was kind enough to use really cheap prop cash, there wasn't much doubt that it was prop cash. Rob provided the photo. Not my fault if some idiots assumed it was real cash.

    Now mickey, you wouldn't have assumed it was real, right? Your eyes are still working okay, right?

  18. #118
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I don't know....when he had his heart attack, did he lose his memory?

    He has dealt with Singer as long as anybody and should have every reason not to believe him based on that history.

    Let assume for the sake of this argument kewJ in some alternate universe you actually make a living playing blackjack. Who makes a joke about someone having a heart attack? Certainly not a real person. Only a troll of the highest order would do such a thing

  19. #119
    Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I don't know....when he had his heart attack, did he lose his memory?

    He has dealt with Singer as long as anybody and should have every reason not to believe him based on that history.

    Let assume for the sake of this argument kewJ in some alternate universe you actually make a living playing blackjack. Who makes a joke about someone having a heart attack? Certainly not a real person. Only a troll of the highest order would do such a thing
    This was not meant as a joke at mickey's expense. There has been quite a change in mickeycrimm over the last few years. Included in that is his position and support of Rob Singer, but there are many other things that I am sure people recognize. It is no secret that during a heart attack, one of the big issues is a period of lack of oxygen to the brain, which can cause loss of brain cells. The change in mickey precedes his major heart attack but not by much. It is quite possible, even likely that his major heart attack was not his first. He probably experienced several smaller, less severe building up to the big one.

    I honestly am not saying any of this with malice. Despite mickey's recent position regarding me as a foe, I have always liked and admired mickey and his career. We have been on a number of forums together and in fact it was him that suggested I come here when there was a major exodus at GF a few years back. It is just hard to ignore the change that has taken place.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 07-19-2022 at 12:28 PM.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  20. #120
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    There has been quite a change in mickeycrimm over the last few years.
    Could be he's just getting old.

    Could be a "Hey you kids keep off of my lawn!" kind of thing.

    But yeah, I see him turning into a sort of traveling curmudgeon.
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