Originally Posted by
redietz
To the extent that experienced sports handicappers are "APs," one can put to bed the idea that "APing" is some kind of myth.
This is the exact type of dumb approach that discredits AP claims. No one ever said Aping is some kind of a myth. We’ve all read about Billy Walters, Phil Ivey, Don Johnson, etc. These are all well known advantage player’s that netted millions in profits on AP plays.
Netting millions of dollars on an AP play is great till it’s exposed and over. If these people make a run for it with their millions and don’t end up in jail or broke looking for another golden goose by the time they reach their golden years, then good for them.
I’m also not talking about two-bit AP’ing traveling all over the country etching out a livable existence for a loner. Being forced to still having to work casinos to survive in your golden years in my eyes is a sad ending, especially after spending most of your adult life in casinos. No different than being forced to work your job till you die to survive.
Having a winning year or a winning season only means just that, you had a winning year or a winning season. Be it luck or be it brains, you need a hell of a lot more winning years or seasons then losing ones to raise a healthy family and be a able to retire safely. When gambling is involved that result is never confirmed fact till it becomes a fact, never knowing for certain the next result. Calculators may say one thing but it still has to happen.
Billy Walters, I think it’s safe enough to say he made it to retirement with plenty of money, as long as he gets out of jail. Certainly there are several more I and most of you don’t even know about that made it, thanks to the good ole days in casino AP. But I’d be willing to guess that list is very selective and short.
With casinos investing in technology and getting schooled on AP plays, you could only guess AP’ing will become harder, if not to petty to make a living out of it.
Let me know where Phil Ivey and Don Johnson or any other self-proclaimed AP’er on these forums claiming healthy success and fortune today are when they reach their golden age securely with enough money to keep them healthy and safe till they die. Then you could brag about your winning years or seasons from AP'ing.
If you (Reditz) lost all you won this season next season would it be safe to say AP’ing is a myth?
"As a parting gift" Think about what you’re saying before you blow smoke up your own ass.