The Verdict Is?

[monet]

Don't ever claim victim status over being gay. You can't win so you resort to unimaginative racial slurs. This speaks directly to your character.

OMG dude. These guys, Singer and Mdawg and now seedvalue have done nothing but attack me in this way for YEARS, slurs and even slurs and attacks of my family, people that don't even participate here. I return fire once in a while and I am the bad guy.

and Mdawg has far far more credibility at this point.

If this is something you really believe, and not just you trying to troll me, then you are stupid. I don't believe you are stupid though. You are just trolling and playing games.

Mdawgs claims are that for 4 years he has played Vegas somewhere around 1100 days, won over a million dollars, and been comped 1100 nights in high end suites. That is basically the claim you are saying is credible and that you believe.

Now a closer look will reveal that at the beginning, Mdawg was talking about bacarát play. For the first year or two it was bacarát play. unable to answer how he was winning at some point after about a year, Mdawg switched to most of his play is blackjack double deck play. he did this for one reason only.... to get over "that defies Math" hump. Mdawg talks about card counting, talks about the high plus counts involved with card counting, so now yes... The math isn't an issue. The math works, but this is not the way Las Vegas or the casino industry works.

People here are now challenging me and the fact that I have managed to play, working very hard to do so, and yet here is a guy claiming he has played 1100 days, over 4 years, won 90% or them, won over a million dollars and been comped 1100 nights in high end suites and yet you, nor anyone else is saying a word. Not one of you guys is question why he isn't getting heat and backed off or 86ed. And that is because everyone knows this isn't the day it works and can't be true.

Come on man! Don't give me your shit about how he is credible. You are trolling me with that comment and nothing else.

I don't read these posts.
I just glance at the word count.
I can't believe how much you care and respond to every post.
Mind-Boggling to me.

[monet]

Wrong again, Ozzy! Time to ditch the Singer/MDawg/KJ/Max/Monet/Redietz/Crimm baloney sandwich, and, get back to the glory days of the Gambler's Glen, with the quirky, but fun, gambling systems. All we need now is the Gr8player, and the Johno, hey, hey, to get the old gang back together. Ha.

Not Nice lumping me in that sandwich. Feeling Hurt!

Oh, no! You, with your BIG parlays, would have fitted right in there at the Glen.

The Glen was a lot of fun without AP's per se. Yeah, the talk grew rougher, but, at least, there wasn't any of the Singer/MDawg/KJ baloney, which has little value, and holds little interest, to the others. I'd see KJ all over the internet, spreading that meaningless garbage. Who cares, anyway? To pick up a novice, for a few posts over a month? "Yeah, sure, I'm a card counter, but, the most basic form (so as not to have to get into even the math)."

If its owner hadn't died, without warning, to keep up the hosting fees, I'm sure it would still be going. Sports, baccarat, horses, a bit of everything well sectioned-out.

I've posted most of the winning (picks) parlay tickets before the games went off.
And I try to give people 3 hours or more to tag along for the ride.
Not exactly a normal thing on the internet or in life.
I grow tired of doing it though.
I've posted enough of the information for anyone to (lol) "data mine" it.
Whatever... I'm going to California to surf the waves for a couple weeks.
Later Dude.

[MaxPen]

Again, two long and rambling posts hysterically trying to set his self-demolished record straight.

Read my lips: There is no reason for anyone to believe that anything you say--now or ever--is anything other than fabrication.... through your own fault. So why do you bother trying so hard to convince people that anything you've ever said is "guaranteed truth"... especially when you're busy picking up girls in bikinis with your oily surfboard in hand?

Delirium from the heat will cause a person to ramble. They might even want to oil their surfboard..RIP

[mickeycrimm]

Wrong again, Ozzy! Time to ditch the Singer/MDawg/KJ/Max/Monet/Redietz/Crimm baloney sandwich, and, get back to the glory days of the Gambler's Glen, with the quirky, but fun, gambling systems. All we need now is the Gr8player, and the Johno, hey, hey, to get the old gang back together. Ha.

Not Nice lumping me in that sandwich.
Feeling Hurt!

G8player is dead.

[kewlJ]

Delirium from the heat will cause a person to ramble. They might even want to oil their surfboard..RIP

Maxpen, when you jumped into this fray, you told everyone that it wasn't personal....that you only sought the thruth. I accepted that and said you had every right to do that.

But now you are frequently attacking me with terms like mental illness, habitual liar, delirium. You have either lied about the stakes I played or are mistaken (I have tried to give you the benefit of doubt). But then you make up lies about "living in the tunnels". And repeat lies about male postilion.

Well it certainly feels pretty personal to me. It no longer seems about you getting to any truth. It seems an agenda to discredit me.

And here is who is cheering you on now: Singer, Mdawg, Blackhole on another forum praising you. Both you and Axel actually. It is no surprise you and Axel seem to be working in tandem. But the people that are cheering you on and praising you....the very trolls and AP haters you have exposed for years. Does that not give you pause and make you think you are on the wrong side?

And I am not talking about you digging and finding no case filed. You had every right to do that. But what has followed has been an agenda to discredit me, that you are now engaged in. Let me repeat the names for you. Singer, Blackhole, Mdawg. You don't see something wrong?

[coach belly]

Does that not give you pause and make you think you are on the wrong side?

I don't get the impression that MP is on anybody's side.

How many sides are there?

[MaxPen]

Delirium from the heat will cause a person to ramble. They might even want to oil their surfboard..RIP

Maxpen, when you jumped into this fray, you told everyone that it wasn't personal....that you only sought the thruth. I accepted that and said you had every right to do that.

But now you are frequently attacking me with terms like mental illness, habitual liar, delirium. You have either lied about the stakes I played or are mistaken (I have tried to give you the benefit of doubt). But then you make up lies about "living in the tunnels". And repeat lies about male postilion.

Well it certainly feels pretty personal to me. It no longer seems about you getting to any truth. It seems an agenda to discredit me.

And here is who is cheering you on now: Singer, Mdawg, Blackhole on another forum praising you. Both you and Axel actually. It is no surprise you and Axel seem to be working in tandem. But the people that are cheering you on and praising you....the very trolls and AP haters you have exposed for years. Does that not give you pause and make you think you are on the wrong side?

And I am not talking about you digging and finding no case filed. You had every right to do that. But what has followed has been an agenda to discredit me, that you are now engaged in. Let me repeat the names for you. Singer, Blackhole, Mdawg. You don't see something wrong?

You can't get to the truth with a fraud. So the only thing left is to speculate why you oil your surfboard. Please don't tell us. I think that's more than we want to know ...RIP

[MisterV]

I surf....DUDE!

Bang-a-cow, uh, dude...

[jbjb]

I surf....DUDE!

Bang-a-cow, uh, dude...

Have you seen his wife? Don't insult the cows, she's way uglier!

[Gottlob1]

Wrong again, Ozzy! Time to ditch the Singer/MDawg/KJ/Max/Monet/Redietz/Crimm baloney sandwich, and, get back to the glory days of the Gambler's Glen, with the quirky, but fun, gambling systems. All we need now is the Gr8player, and the Johno, hey, hey, to get the old gang back together. Ha.

Not Nice lumping me in that sandwich.
Feeling Hurt!

G8player is dead.

Not quite, I don't think. He posted at GF's, this March. But, maybe you meant figuratively, in which case I would have to agree. He was never the same after the Wizard banned him, for absolutely no good reason. Would have been a monstrous baccarat thread, and, so, the Wizard put a premature end to it. Varmenti was another charismatic baccarat player in the thread. Gr8player wrote about other aspects of his life, his family, from the outside looking in, as if disowned because of the gambling stuff. Johno started the internet rumor, years ago, of G8player's demise. Those guys were day, and, night.

https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...10#post-158783

https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...11#post-158995

[accountinquestion]

Don't ever claim victim status over being gay. You can't win so you resort to unimaginative racial slurs. This speaks directly to your character.

OMG dude. These guys, Singer and Mdawg and now seedvalue have done nothing but attack me in this way for YEARS, slurs and even slurs and attacks of my family, people that don't even participate here. I return fire once in a while and I am the bad guy.

Ok, so that justifies that you can be racist? The problem with such things is that it also reflects on everyone in that class at people that you aren't directing the slur at. Although I will give you that what the above mentioned 3 are no better. That does not justify what you do though. You're the one on the highest horse.

and Mdawg has far far more credibility at this point.

If this is something you really believe, and not just you trying to troll me, then you are stupid. I don't believe you are stupid though. You are just trolling and playing games.

Mdawgs claims are that for 4 years he has played Vegas somewhere around 1100 days, won over a million dollars, and been comped 1100 nights in high end suites. That is basically the claim you are saying is credible and that you believe.

Now a closer look will reveal that at the beginning, Mdawg was talking about bacarát play. For the first year or two it was bacarát play. unable to answer how he was winning at some point after about a year, Mdawg switched to most of his play is blackjack double deck play. he did this for one reason only.... to get over "that defies Math" hump. Mdawg talks about card counting, talks about the high plus counts involved with card counting, so now yes... The math isn't an issue. The math works, but this is not the way Las Vegas or the casino industry works.

People here are now challenging me and the fact that I have managed to play, working very hard to do so, and yet here is a guy claiming he has played 1100 days, over 4 years, won 90% or them, won over a million dollars and been comped 1100 nights in high end suites and yet you, nor anyone else is saying a word. Not one of you guys is question why he isn't getting heat and backed off or 86ed. And that is because everyone knows this isn't the day it works and can't be true.

Come on man! Don't give me your shit about how he is credible. You are trolling me with that comment and nothing else.

Of course I believe that Mdawg has more credibility. He claims he wins and whatever. Lets assume he isn't truthful. That is but one thread of a lie. You have so many of them going on people can't even list them.

So are you serious? Do you somehow think that is less than what you do?

Mdawg hasn't posted much on here in years until you came about causing this thread. Why would I go hunt him down to correct him? OMG do you really think I am that much of a loser? You've GOT to be kidding me! You can't believe that!

Anyway - my main point I wanted to make is that you again didn't address the shuffler thing.

Here is another point for the readers to consider.

Kewl said there was a guy named Angel who gave him a smile as he punched in the cheat code on the shuffler at El Cortez. This very strongly implies that they knew Kewl is a counter. Yet in other posts Kewl claims he has only been 86d once. Wait what? How does the El Cortez aka sweatiest joint in town LET KEWL PLAY IF THEY KNOW HE IS A COUNTER ???

They wouldn't. It is but another lie.

Kewl. if you want any respect from me you're going to have to fess up to the whole series of lies you have inflicted on this here forum. I was personally a victim of this shuffler lie as I referenced it as the truth to others. Can you say the same about Singer or Mdawg?

THe ball in your court. Fess up and show us some sort of honesty and dignity. It is what we deserve as a forum.

[Treeshade]

OMG dude. These guys, Singer and Mdawg and now seedvalue have done nothing but attack me in this way for YEARS, slurs and even slurs and attacks of my family, people that don't even participate here. I return fire once in a while and I am the bad guy.

and Mdawg has far far more credibility at this point.

If this is something you really believe, and not just you trying to troll me, then you are stupid. I don't believe you are stupid though. You are just trolling and playing games.

Mdawgs claims are that for 4 years he has played Vegas somewhere around 1100 days, won over a million dollars, and been comped 1100 nights in high end suites. That is basically the claim you are saying is credible and that you believe.

Now a closer look will reveal that at the beginning, Mdawg was talking about bacarát play. For the first year or two it was bacarát play. unable to answer how he was winning at some point after about a year, Mdawg switched to most of his play is blackjack double deck play. he did this for one reason only.... to get over "that defies Math" hump. Mdawg talks about card counting, talks about the high plus counts involved with card counting, so now yes... The math isn't an issue. The math works, but this is not the way Las Vegas or the casino industry works.

People here are now challenging me and the fact that I have managed to play, working very hard to do so, and yet here is a guy claiming he has played 1100 days, over 4 years, won 90% or them, won over a million dollars and been comped 1100 nights in high end suites and yet you, nor anyone else is saying a word. Not one of you guys is question why he isn't getting heat and backed off or 86ed. And that is because everyone knows this isn't the day it works and can't be true.

Come on man! Don't give me your shit about how he is credible. You are trolling me with that comment and nothing else.

I don't read these posts.
I just glance at the word count.
I can't believe how much you care and respond to every post.
Mind-Boggling to me.

Do you know why he post so much ? Because at least two people here know exactly who he is and how many tricks he turns a month to get by. Anxiety lol rip

[MDawg]

UNKewlyingJ was caught lying over a number of things including a claim that he was involved in a lawsuit for being backroomed and having his arm broken. He carried on for three long months describing the legal process in detail (getting it wrong again and again) until finally admitting that he had made up the whole lawsuit, but stubbornly clinging to the obvious lie that the incident had really happened but he had just lied about that there was any lawsuit around it.

Then it became clear that he had lied about six other major stories he had laid out over the past years, and in the midst of this he pretty much lost it and started trying to lash out at anyone who had called him onto the carpet, which includes the entire forum membership.

slapped you in your foreigner, sand nigger face.

BTW UNKewlLyingJ, I'm by no means a surfer, but I grew up oceanfront and did surf some. I've never "oiled" my board, no surfer I know or have ever heard of oils his board. You wax your board, you don't oil it.

Idiot.

Just more nonsense from this compulsive liar in line with his not knowing that he was the Plaintiff in his "lawsuit," that settlements cannot be approved by judges on court holidays, or that ACH funds may not land on non banking days. In general, the topics on which he expounds the most are the ones with which he has the LEAST personal experience. In other words, the more he yaps the more he lies.

The list goes on and on with this uber clown.

And no one is excited about your getting excoriated, just amused that you keep up with your lying nonsense even after being called to task again and again for lie after lie.

[Treeshade]

UNKewlyingJ was caught lying over a number of things including a claim that he was involved in a lawsuit for being backroomed and having his arm broken. He carried on for three long months describing the legal process in detail (getting it wrong again and again) until finally admitting that he had made up the whole lawsuit, but stubbornly clinging to the obvious lie that the incident had really happened but he had just lied about that there was any lawsuit around it.

Then it became clear that he had lied about six other major stories he had laid out over the past years, and in the midst of this he pretty much lost it and started trying to lash out at anyone who had called him onto the carpet, which includes the entire forum membership.

slapped you in your foreigner, sand nigger face.

BTW UNKewlLyingJ, I'm by no means a surfer, but I grew up oceanfront and did surf some. I've never "oiled" my board, no surfer I know or have ever heard of oils his board. You wax your board, you don't oil it.

Idiot.

Just more nonsense from this compulsive liar in line with his not knowing that he was the Plaintiff in his "lawsuit," that settlements cannot be approved by judges on court holidays, or that ACH funds may not land on non banking days.

The list goes on and on with this uber clown.

And no one is excited about your getting excoriated, just amused that you keep up with your lying nonsense even after being called to task again and again for lie after lie.

He’s confused because of all the cocks he oils up performing his real job

[MDawg]

Actually if you look back, it has been a couple YEARS since I have even made any reference to UNKewLyingJ's sexuality, other than in January 2022

https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...34#post-135077

when I pointed out how much a liar you were when you suddenly tried to claim that you were not gay.

Just to show you how non homophobic I am, today they were handing out free shopping bags, and we could choose any design, and I ended up picking this one



not realizing what it stood for. I thought "Disney Pride" was some literal reference to pride in Disneyland. Didn't even get the LGBT reference until I drove off.

Anyway, if you want it, just give me your Mail Stop address and I'll ship it along. Brand new, unused! I know you Vegas underground sewer dwellers have no permanent address, but most of youse have a rented Po Box, no? So gimme the POB and I'll ship it to ya.

[kewlJ]

Here is another point for the readers to consider.

Kewl said there was a guy named Angel who gave him a smile as he punched in the cheat code on the shuffler at El Cortez. This very strongly implies that they knew Kewl is a counter. Yet in other posts Kewl claims he has only been 86d once. Wait what? How does the El Cortez aka sweatiest joint in town LET KEWL PLAY IF THEY KNOW HE IS A COUNTER ???

They wouldn't. It is but another lie.

You have such a hard-on to discredit me, that you are just saying shit that you are mixing everything up. And Bolding it as well.

Angel did not work at El Cortez. He worked at Eastside Cannery.

And I was backed of at El Cortez, probably 5 or 6 times. And unless I am forgetting a backoff, all 5 or 6 were by the same pit guy, named Maurice, but he went by "mo". Skinny, little, old, Italian man with a heavy accent.

If you want to question something I said, feel free to question something. But get your fact straight. Just don't go mixing up everything. If you can't even be bothered to get things straight, why should I give you the time of day.

[kewlJ]

Actually if you look back, it has been a couple YEARS since I have even made any reference to UNKewLyingJ's sexuality, other than in January 2022

I am not going to waste time looking, but I am sure I can find something you said more recently that that.

AND, a trick Mdawg likes to do is quote others. He frequently will quote the homophobic remarks by people like Singer and Seedvalue.
Do you really think that is any better Mdawg?

How about if I just quote the nasty remarks made about you by JBJB and JBS instead of saying it myself. Would that really be any different?

[kewlJ]

And I was backed of at El Cortez, probably 5 or 6 times. And unless I am forgetting a backoff, all 5 or 6 were by the same pit guy, named Maurice, but he went by "mo". Skinny, little, old, Italian man with a heavy accent.

Yeah, I forgot a back off by the Older Chinese lady. A lot of people called her "the Dragon Lady". I probably even 1 or 2 more I am forgetting at El Cortez.

edit: oh yeah, here is another one. A different pit guy at El Cortez told me "thats enough for today". I was back a week or so later playing on his shift.

I didn't take El Cortez too seriously, because I knew there were no real consequences. With the guy Maurice or "mo" that I mentioned, I actually antagonized him at times. Although I didn't pay a price for it, probably one of the stupider things I did during my time in Vegas.

So in thinking just a little my back offs at El Cortez were probably 10-12. And my grand total for my 13 years is probably higher than I am estimating also. So this shit that I played "unmolested" is just shit.

[MDawg]

The only back off UNKewLyingJ has experienced lately....

He’s confused because of all the cocks he oils up performing his real job

I wasn't going to share this on open forum, but....

what really happened, is



a little twist arm action as they ejected him for being recognized as a known male prostitute, resulted in brittle bones breaking, eh AccountInQuestion?

[kewlJ]

The only back off UNKewLyingJ has experienced lately....

He’s confused because of all the cocks he oils up performing his real job

Thanks for making my point Mdawg. If you are going to quote, this homophobic, made up shit, then I am well within my rights to call you a sand nigger.

If there are no rules (or rules enforced) then I am not breaking any rules.