DanDruff care to weigh in on UNKewlJ's backrooming lawsuit "story" now?

[kewlJ]

Now I have some questions for YOU, AinQ? Maybe I am wrong, because I can't and don't keep track of everyone's status, but think I remember you saying you don't play much blackjack anymore. But just to be sure what we are talking about:

Do You play blackjack regularly?
Were you playing blackjack in Las Vegas 4-6 years ago, when these events occurred?
Were you playing blackjack at the specific casinos where these incident occurred?
Were you playing blackjack at the specific tables that had the 3 machines in question (at the correct time)?

If the answer isn't yes to all of these questions, then just STFU. If the answer is not yes to all of these questions, then you are no different than Rob Singer, who also doesn't play blackjack, nor seem to know a damn thing about it, but yet still voices his stupid opinions on things he doesn't have a clue about. Don't be a Rob Singer AinQ. Be better than that!

[monet]

I'm starting to realize that it doesn't matter what is true or false or what is said about kewlJ.
He/She just loves the attention no matter positive or negative.
The proof is that kewlJ responds to just about every single post.
I enjoy video games.
kelwJ enjoys posting on gambling forums.
Case Closed.

[accountinquestion]

Kewl - You said you hired a programmer who showed you how to use a mode built-in already into a shuffler so that the shuffler would cheat players. This shuffler is something available to you off Ebay. He did it in 15 minutes. The whole thing is just absurd. I could come up with some crazy ass story how it was plausible but it would be exactly that - a crazy ass story.

This device is the basis for a 1 billion dollar company. It would implode if it become known that every shuffler in the casinos has a cheat mode just a few button presses away. How would this knowledge never get out if you got a random programmer who cracked the codes in 15 minutes.

This shit to me is the equivalent to "seeing it with my own eyes". I know it is a lie.

So cut the shit.

You know where you fucked up? If you had just never said you had a programmer look at it. You should have just said "I bought a shufler but could never make it do anything". lol. Instead you backed yourself into the corner around establishing that all shufflers do this. Not that El Cortez et al had done something to the shufflers.

There is where the compulsion comes in. The unneeded details lol.

Maybe you should claim the shufler that you bought off ebay was an extra rare one. Yea thats the ticket.

Anyway, just be a decent person ok? Stop the lies.

[accountinquestion]

I'm starting to realize that it doesn't matter what is true or false or what is said about kewlJ.
He/She just loves the attention no matter positive or negative.
The proof is that kewlJ responds to just about every single post.
I enjoy video games.
kelwJ enjoys posting on gambling forums.
Case Closed.

Winding him up with AI.

The future is now.

[accountinquestion]

Kewl, my friend, I hate to tell you but this whole shuffler thing. I say this in sincerity and not trolling. SInger owning a Newell is more likely than your shuffler story. Mdawg could have on the biggest hot streak. You ever thought that somewhere someone was the luckiest man in the world in gambling. Just born to be that guy. Maybe that guy iis Mdawg?

Your story? I feel like I proved it with greater believability.

If something is .00000001 chance of being true then I say it is a fact it isn't true.

So stop the lies and lets go forward. This new forum values truth above everything else.

[Gottlob1]

You guys need to drop all the new car, lawsuit, surfboard, etc., garbage before you crack up like KJ, Red, Singer, Max, and the other Vegas morons. Pitiful beyond parody.

[Dan Druff]

kewlJ, the problem is here that you can't cast yourself as a serious poster if you are going to tell major lies to back up other stories. Even if the original stories are true, once you resort to lying in order to convince doubters that these things really happened, you've killed your own credibility.

It seems that, unlike Rob Singer (who seems to know that he's mostly regarded as a clown here, and enjoys it), you want others' respect here. You want your claims and stories to be taken at face value. Once you're caught fibbing, it's hard to achieve that.

I will admit that I am very puzzled regarding what is the actual truth with you. I assume that you probably are a blackjack card counter, and have made money at it. I believe you're actually gay and have a boyfriend, and that your previous partner passed away. I don't believe you are or ever were a male prostitute. I have no proof about any of this, but that's my gut feeling. However, beyond that, a lot of what you write could be total fiction. You're definitely someone who isn't adverse to lying on forums if it suits you to do so.

There's a long history of people telling questionable stories on this forum. We have MDawg's endless high stakes winning. We have Alan's 18 yos in a row, may he rest in peace. We have Rob's Newell. There's plenty more. Once you're caught telling tall tales, it is best to put any sanctimoniousness aside, apologize for bullshitting, and attempt to move on. Or if you don't want to do that, simply stop speaking of it, even if thrown in your face later.

Had MaxPen not done his searching, we would probably still be reading long essays about the lawsuits, and how we are all fools to be doubting it.

[Rob.Singer]

Uh-oh....looks like kewball lied himself into another corner again! How does one become a shufflemaster master anyways?

Now we'll be treated to yet another dose of "I'm DONE with you trolls, you meanies!" and "No way I'm ever gonna talk about this again!" and "Gosh darn it guys, I've bared my soul here and tried my best to share my BJ experiences with what I thought & hoped was the gosh darnedest best bunch of knowledgeable AP's on the internet, but all you're doing is trying to have yourselves a set of coach belly-gotcha moments!". waaa....waaa...."Why doesn't Dan Druff DO something about this!?"

I'm ready for your next tall tale kew. We could even ask redietz if his buddy, who wears loafers without socks, could swing by and film your next collection of lies, lies, and more lies.

[Treeshade]

kewlJ, the problem is here that you can't cast yourself as a serious poster if you are going to tell major lies to back up other stories. Even if the original stories are true, once you resort to lying in order to convince doubters that these things really happened, you've killed your own credibility.

It seems that, unlike Rob Singer (who seems to know that he's mostly regarded as a clown here, and enjoys it), you want others' respect here. You want your claims and stories to be taken at face value. Once you're caught fibbing, it's hard to achieve that.

I will admit that I am very puzzled regarding what is the actual truth with you. I assume that you probably are a blackjack card counter, and have made money at it. I believe you're actually gay and have a boyfriend, and that your previous partner passed away. I don't believe you are or ever were a male prostitute. I have no proof about any of this, but that's my gut feeling. However, beyond that, a lot of what you write could be total fiction. You're definitely someone who isn't adverse to lying on forums if it suits you to do so.

There's a long history of people telling questionable stories on this forum. We have MDawg's endless high stakes winning. We have Alan's 18 yos in a row, may he rest in peace. We have Rob's Newell. There's plenty more. Once you're caught telling tall tales, it is best to put any sanctimoniousness aside, apologize for bullshitting, and attempt to move on. Or if you don't want to do that, simply stop speaking of it, even if thrown in your face later.

Had MaxPen not done his searching, we would probably still be reading long essays about the lawsuits, and how we are all fools to be doubting it.

I’m willing to put my cock up against anyone on this forum for a min bet of 50k

I’m also willing to fuck side by side against anyone on this forum for the same 50k last longer bet if Kewj films it dressed in a one piece woman’s bathing suit.

[redietz]

Kewl - You said you hired a programmer who showed you how to use a mode built-in already into a shuffler so that the shuffler would cheat players. This shuffler is something available to you off Ebay. He did it in 15 minutes. The whole thing is just absurd. I could come up with some crazy ass story how it was plausible but it would be exactly that - a crazy ass story.

This device is the basis for a 1 billion dollar company. It would implode if it become known that every shuffler in the casinos has a cheat mode just a few button presses away. How would this knowledge never get out if you got a random programmer who cracked the codes in 15 minutes.

This shit to me is the equivalent to "seeing it with my own eyes". I know it is a lie.

So cut the shit.

You know where you fucked up? If you had just never said you had a programmer look at it. You should have just said "I bought a shufler but could never make it do anything". lol. Instead you backed yourself into the corner around establishing that all shufflers do this. Not that El Cortez et al had done something to the shufflers.

There is where the compulsion comes in. The unneeded details lol.

Maybe you should claim the shufler that you bought off ebay was an extra rare one. Yea thats the ticket.

Anyway, just be a decent person ok? Stop the lies.

I wish I knew whether account knew what he was talking about, but I don't. I have no experience with blackjack or shuffle machines. The last time account opined on something I know, he was ludicrously ignorant while acting as if he knew what he was talking about.

I guess if you're an anonymous "AP," one of the benefits is that you get to bullshit as much as you like and nobody can ever pin you down.

Account suggested that folks data mining the results of various handicappers would be better served by data mining the actual results of sporting events. Since that has been publicly going on for 40 years and has been published in newsletters every week and football annuals every year for 30+ years, I didn't think it merited a mention, but account decided to display his cleverness and grasp of the obvious.

So when he opines with similar certitude regarding shuffle machines, I have zero idea if he actually knows whereof he posts or is just as brazenly ignorant as he was regarding programs being applied to the results of every sport for the last 40 years.

Account clearly hadn't picked up and read a newsletter or PlayBook annual over the last 30 years, but he was quite comfortable putting his thoughts onto the forum for all to read. He hadn't taken eight hours in 30 years to examine what he was talking about, but he was happy to share his expertise with a dash of certainty. And these weren't hidden resources he needed to track down; they were among the biggest selling newsletters and annuals in the country. On every major newsstand. But ignorance didn't stop account from sharing his intellectual wealth.

That's what passes for expertise in online forums.

If monet were the only poster, this place would improve a hundred percent.

I think a new forum, Monet's Cave, is in order. The only rule -- you have to have some idea what you're talking about.

[Ozzy]

Kewl - You said you hired a programmer who showed you how to use a mode built-in already into a shuffler so that the shuffler would cheat players. This shuffler is something available to you off Ebay. He did it in 15 minutes. The whole thing is just absurd. I could come up with some crazy ass story how it was plausible but it would be exactly that - a crazy ass story.

This device is the basis for a 1 billion dollar company. It would implode if it become known that every shuffler in the casinos has a cheat mode just a few button presses away. How would this knowledge never get out if you got a random programmer who cracked the codes in 15 minutes.

This shit to me is the equivalent to "seeing it with my own eyes". I know it is a lie.

So cut the shit.

You know where you fucked up? If you had just never said you had a programmer look at it. You should have just said "I bought a shufler but could never make it do anything". lol. Instead you backed yourself into the corner around establishing that all shufflers do this. Not that El Cortez et al had done something to the shufflers.

There is where the compulsion comes in. The unneeded details lol.

Maybe you should claim the shufler that you bought off ebay was an extra rare one. Yea thats the ticket.

Anyway, just be a decent person ok? Stop the lies.

I wish I knew whether account knew what he was talking about, but I don't. I have no experience with blackjack or shuffle machines. The last time account opined on something I know, he was ludicrously ignorant while acting as if he knew what he was talking about.

I guess if you're an anonymous "AP," one of the benefits is that you get to bullshit as much as you like and nobody can ever pin you down.

Account suggested that folks data mining the results of various handicappers would be better served by data mining the actual results of sporting events. Since that has been publicly going on for 40 years and has been published in newsletters every week and football annuals every year for 30+ years, I didn't think it merited a mention, but account decided to display his cleverness and grasp of the obvious.

So when he opines with similar certitude regarding shuffle machines, I have zero idea if he actually knows whereof he posts or is just as brazenly ignorant as he was regarding programs being applied to the results of every sport for the last 40 years.

Account clearly hadn't picked up and read a newsletter or PlayBook annual over the last 30 years, but he was quite comfortable putting his thoughts onto the forum for all to read. He hadn't taken eight hours in 30 years to examine what he was talking about, but he was happy to share his expertise with a dash of certainty. And these weren't hidden resources he needed to track down; they were among the biggest selling newsletters and annuals in the country. On every major newsstand. But ignorance didn't stop account from sharing his intellectual wealth.

That's what passes for expertise in online forums.

If monet were the only poster, this place would improve a hundred percent.

I think a new forum, Monet's Cave, is in order. The only rule -- you have to have some idea what you're talking about.

Very dissapointed in you Comrade. You have no hope in hell of ever catching the UNKOOL1 in total posts. 1k behind is insurmountable! Stop slacking off and WISE UP!

[Gottlob1]

I will admit that I am very puzzled regarding what is the actual truth with you.

KJ tells lies (back and forth) about everything, let alone directly to do with the blackjack stuff. In fact, he's such a bad liar that it's almost embarrassing to read. He constantly tries to remake even himself, his family, and so on.

There's a long history of people telling questionable stories on this forum. We have MDawg's endless high stakes winning. We have Alan's 18 yos in a row, may he rest in peace. We have Rob's Newell.

I wouldn't doubt that Singer is modern gambling mental patient-0. His effects on the Wizard, Alan, Red, KJ, Max, and, now, MDawg. The Wizard interviewing him from a darkened room had to be an emotional turning point for the Wizard.

Had MaxPen not done his searching, we would probably still be reading long essays about the lawsuits, and how we are all fools to be doubting it.

He will make up that he made up the making-up.

[MDawg]

Very well written summary, MDawg.

I enjoyed it. It is a little less interesting now that kewlJ admitted that there was no actual lawsuit.

I like how MaxPen called it kewlJ's "Newell moment". Hilarious.

I have no dog in this fight, and don't dislike kewlJ like you and many others do. However, I will admit that this never smelled quite right to me, and my personal belief at this point is that kewlJ made the whole thing up.

Perhaps it's loosely based upon a real incident, such as a blackjack ban he received where a security guard roughly handled him and accidentally hurt kewlJ's arm a little bit. I don't think there was any incident which was lawsuit-worthy, which is why we got so many changing and bizarre versions of the same story.

kewlJ, the problem is here that you can't cast yourself as a serious poster if you are going to tell major lies to back up other stories. Even if the original stories are true, once you resort to lying in order to convince doubters that these things really happened, you've killed your own credibility.

You want your claims and stories to be taken at face value. Once you're caught fibbing, it's hard to achieve that.

I will admit that I am very puzzled regarding what is the actual truth with you.

a lot of what you write could be total fiction. You're definitely someone who isn't adverse to lying on forums if it suits you to do so.

Had MaxPen not done his searching, we would probably still be reading long essays about the lawsuits, and how we are all fools to be doubting it.

Yes, what you said I and many others have pretty much said the same for some time now.

You gotta understand, that anything UNKewlJ posts is based on theory - he doesn't actually play much if at all.

He spends all his days and nights thinking up lies to back up his nonsense. We just saw a few weeks of this with the backrooming fable. He doesn't have time for much else other than concocting nonsense and crying in rage over anything that doesn't gibe with his stay at home theory.

MaxPen on the UNKewl one: Compulsive liar is a fair assessment of what he is. If people go back and look at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.

MaxPen positively identified him - as a red to green player, which was just a cover for his real business as a hustler that SeedValue uncovered. The guy doesn't even touch 500 chips, almost never has. Even at GF.com he stated that his average session win was about fifty bucks.

Why waste time writing anything much new about him, when I already have said it best:

The UNKewl one was a liar, and like most liars, he was constantly changing his stories, altering time and personnel from one telling to the next. One time he would tell a story about someone, next time he would switch the story around to give himself the lead. He would sit in the casino coffee shop over coffee and pound cake, talking at random about his experiences, posting constantly on internet forums, plotting ways to take down all those he is envious of, never actually entering the casino, afraid like a nervous poodle to even play.

[MDawg]

There are a number of things he could post that would begin to provide credibility.

He claims that he retains stacks of chips from various casinos, he's mentioned five figures, he could post a picture of his entire bankroll to prove that he has more than fifty bucks on tap, and really does retain large stocks of chips from different casinos at home, posting the pic along with a handwritten note "Hello from UNKewlJ."

He claims to live in one of the condos at Panorama Towers / The Martin on Dean Martin Dr. - although we know he has no ownership there, he could at least go up into one of those condos and post a picture showing the view while holding out his laptop or smart phone showing this page in the foreground.

He could post redacted player records that were supposedly dropped off on Halloween. The problem is - he doesn't know what such a thing looks like, so he knows trying to wing it would end badly just as it did with the backrooming matter and shuffler.

And yes, the oily surfboard on the beach with a "take this MaxPen" sign on it would dispel the feeling that he is nowhere near the beach or southern Cal this weekend.

As far as this backrooming matter, obviously none of it ever happened, but if he wanted to show us something, he did claim his arm was broken, so how about a picture of the cast on his arm, and a pic of it off his arm cut in half, because by about now it would be removed. He could sign it, TO MDAWG FROM UNKEWLJ.
He also claims that he was emailed by the press about this - how about a redacted screen shot of that, in the past I've posted redacted screen shots of convos I've had with casino staff to verify this or that, why can't he?

It can't be lack of imagination that prevents him from providing any kind of proof - it has to be that there is no proof to provide.

I didn't expect anything from him, because he has nothing to provide. Other than more high pitched whining and lies.

Wow, the kewl-groomer still squealing like a little bitch, amazing, hey hey!!!!

[accountinquestion]

Kewl - You said you hired a programmer who showed you how to use a mode built-in already into a shuffler so that the shuffler would cheat players. This shuffler is something available to you off Ebay. He did it in 15 minutes. The whole thing is just absurd. I could come up with some crazy ass story how it was plausible but it would be exactly that - a crazy ass story.

This device is the basis for a 1 billion dollar company. It would implode if it become known that every shuffler in the casinos has a cheat mode just a few button presses away. How would this knowledge never get out if you got a random programmer who cracked the codes in 15 minutes.

This shit to me is the equivalent to "seeing it with my own eyes". I know it is a lie.

So cut the shit.

You know where you fucked up? If you had just never said you had a programmer look at it. You should have just said "I bought a shufler but could never make it do anything". lol. Instead you backed yourself into the corner around establishing that all shufflers do this. Not that El Cortez et al had done something to the shufflers.

There is where the compulsion comes in. The unneeded details lol.

Maybe you should claim the shufler that you bought off ebay was an extra rare one. Yea thats the ticket.

Anyway, just be a decent person ok? Stop the lies.

I wish I knew whether account knew what he was talking about, but I don't. I have no experience with blackjack or shuffle machines. The last time account opined on something I know, he was ludicrously ignorant while acting as if he knew what he was talking about.

I guess if you're an anonymous "AP," one of the benefits is that you get to bullshit as much as you like and nobody can ever pin you down.

Account suggested that folks data mining the results of various handicappers would be better served by data mining the actual results of sporting events. Since that has been publicly going on for 40 years and has been published in newsletters every week and football annuals every year for 30+ years, I didn't think it merited a mention, but account decided to display his cleverness and grasp of the obvious.

So when he opines with similar certitude regarding shuffle machines, I have zero idea if he actually knows whereof he posts or is just as brazenly ignorant as he was regarding programs being applied to the results of every sport for the last 40 years.

Account clearly hadn't picked up and read a newsletter or PlayBook annual over the last 30 years, but he was quite comfortable putting his thoughts onto the forum for all to read. He hadn't taken eight hours in 30 years to examine what he was talking about, but he was happy to share his expertise with a dash of certainty. And these weren't hidden resources he needed to track down; they were among the biggest selling newsletters and annuals in the country. On every major newsstand. But ignorance didn't stop account from sharing his intellectual wealth.

That's what passes for expertise in online forums.

If monet were the only poster, this place would improve a hundred percent.

I think a new forum, Monet's Cave, is in order. The only rule -- you have to have some idea what you're talking about.

Redietz, you don't need to know much about shufflers or blackjack to understand Kewls nonsensical logic is not possible. It really has nothing to do with blackjack or shuffler directly - just understanding the improbability of what Kewl saying is true. I understood how improbable it was he broke a arm and kept on that. I asked him to tell Druff the case and IMO thats about the time his whole story started to fall apart.

Redietz it is unfortunate you don't know what data-mining means or the methods of most modern sports bettors which you openly mock. Keep at it with tales of gangsters on your podunk ass blog.

I am a goofball sure but I am pretty damn savvy. I have not concocted some fantasy around myself like you do.

And yes, I am not going to go read playbook and you never ever want to address a question so we are a standstill here.

You're suggesting I spend hours and hours of my time to track down some old magazine but yet won't put a few minutes answering a question. You avoided a whole thread of questions. They don't take long to answer ol boy but that is what you do - don't answer questions. Probably better that way. Look at where it gets Kewl.

[accountinquestion]

Very dissapointed in you Comrade. You have no hope in hell of ever catching the UNKOOL1 in total posts. 1k behind is insurmountable! Stop slacking off and WISE UP!

It is quite humorous how much he consistently ducks questions and loves the word opine.

Kewl, this is for you, pahdner.

[MisterV]

Alright guys, Dan Druff has given us his opinion so there is no longer any need for this thread to remain open.

Now we can focus on important Las Vegas issues like dehydrated water and AI/robotic dealers.

[MDawg]

Well allow me to repeat (UNKew style) what he said, then, before we exit, stage left.

I will admit that this never smelled quite right to me, and my personal belief at this point is that kewlJ made the whole thing up.

But you and I and everyone else know that notwithstanding his second vow in as many days to stop posting anything substantive, that UNKewLyingJ will be back with more tomes dedicated to why he lied, why some of what he said was true, and why we should believe him.

And keep in mind DanDruff, that UNKewLyingJ continues with the lies by babbling incoherently about how his lying about everything to do with the backrooming lawsuit somehow furthered his "privacy." How lying for months on end and then admitting that he lied thereby retracting everything he posited furthered anything in the realm of protecting privacy, is unclear to anyone with any sense.

In sum though, he ended up an unmitigated TOTAL, JOKE, and wasn't able to offer up any proof to gainsay the great AxelWolf's pronouncement:

Everything and anything he has ever said will come into question and years of his forum adventures in BJ and life will be labeled as fiction.

[Gottlob1]

Well allow me to repeat (UNKew style) what he said, then, before we exit, stage left.

---> The Final Last of the Ultimate End (short story).

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I wonder. Ha.

Edit: Well, no more need to wonder. The Dawg waited only a minute or so to get right back at it.


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[kewlJ]

I don't see anything new in Dan Druff's post. He reaffirmed he believes most of my blackjack backstory and claims, but not any of the backroom story. That is his right. Druff also reaffirmed he doesn't believe MDawg's endless high stakes winning", nor Singer's shit.

It cracks me up that Mdawg immediately quotes Druff leaving out how Druff doesn't believe his "endless high stakes winning". Funny, but I guess not unexpected. Then Mdawg posts a quote from Axelwolf, that Axelwolf just yesterday told him to stop because Mdawg was taking it out of context (as he always does). What a sleezebag Mdawg continues to be.

In a different thread and post Druff addressed that he is not interested in selling the forum. And that is fine too. My only question would be if he is so fond of and attached to the forum as he stated, why does he sometimes go weeks without showing up, rarely posts anything except his sports picks, and most troubling to me, doesn't enforce his own posted rules.

While I don't see much new in what Druff wrote, I do see some issues with what he didn't write.

Druff wrote that he didn't believe I was a male prostitute. wooptie-doo. That is a far cry from his saying or doing anything to stop people from posting that kind of bullshit, which is meant only to discredit someone. As I said, I was once told I couldn't refer to coach belly as a pedo, because I was accusing him of illegal activity. But someone making up illegal shit about me, I guess is acceptable.

The bigger issue for me is that Druff did not address Mdawgs continuing doxxing of me. Rule #3 on Druff's posted rules. I have been waiting for Druff to weigh in on this and now he has by not addressing it. And that is the one thing out of everything he wrote (or didn't) write that is unacceptable to me. Mdawgs doxing of me has cost me money. I have had to lay low for parts (basically half) of two different years, resulting in much less playing time and EV earned, which is money. If I had to guess, I would say it cost me in the neighborhood of 100k.

Let me repeat that. Participating on a stupid internet forum or forums, where a guy was allowed to dox me, and that information, immediately turned up in the databases has cost me in the neighborhood of 100k. That is not acceptable to me. And it is not acceptable that Druff allows, and seems to welcome this guy on the forum without addressing it. And finding this unacceptable, my response will be something I should have done a very long time ago.