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  1. #1
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Now if only you had QUIT WHILE AHEAD, you'd have never hit that.
    Interesting that you said that. I always use winners to move up to higher denominations. I disagree with Rob who says to move down. Frankly winning $100 with AAAA was not a day-ending win... but had I won $1,000 (royal) on that $30 of free play I would have quit for the day.
    The reason I say to move down is because casinos make lots of their profits from players who are suddenly overconfident and feel they can get an even bigger thrill by doing it again on a higher denomination. It is never wrong to be satisfied with a profit off of free play or anything else.

    I'm just surprised no one has said it so I will. You've posted many times how you go into RR to get your small amount of free play and leave with whatever profit you get from running it thru once. Is that really true? I ask because I'm someone who actually does that, and it takes gobs of discipline.

  2. #2
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Now if only you had QUIT WHILE AHEAD, you'd have never hit that.
    Interesting that you said that. I always use winners to move up to higher denominations. I disagree with Rob who says to move down. Frankly winning $100 with AAAA was not a day-ending win... but had I won $1,000 (royal) on that $30 of free play I would have quit for the day.
    The reason I say to move down is because casinos make lots of their profits from players who are suddenly overconfident and feel they can get an even bigger thrill by doing it again on a higher denomination. It is never wrong to be satisfied with a profit off of free play or anything else.

    I'm just surprised no one has said it so I will. You've posted many times how you go into RR to get your small amount of free play and leave with whatever profit you get from running it thru once. Is that really true? I ask because I'm someone who actually does that, and it takes gobs of discipline.
    Alan going in and cycling FP once is about as likely as 18 yos in a row.

  3. #3
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Now if only you had QUIT WHILE AHEAD, you'd have never hit that.
    Interesting that you said that. I always use winners to move up to higher denominations. I disagree with Rob who says to move down. Frankly winning $100 with AAAA was not a day-ending win... but had I won $1,000 (royal) on that $30 of free play I would have quit for the day.
    The reason I say to move down is because casinos make lots of their profits from players who are suddenly overconfident and feel they can get an even bigger thrill by doing it again on a higher denomination. It is never wrong to be satisfied with a profit off of free play or anything else.

    I'm just surprised no one has said it so I will. You've posted many times how you go into RR to get your small amount of free play and leave with whatever profit you get from running it thru once. Is that really true? I ask because I'm someone who actually does that, and it takes gobs of discipline.
    Rob, I hit the AAAA on my first $30 of free play. After that I used rising stop loss. I decided I would leave with a minimum of $30 and as I continued to play and gained wins with various Quads my rising stop loss increased. I continued to play even after hitting the royal but a different game but still at $1, and still using a rising stop loss. See the photo below.

    Yesterday at Suncoast I had $10 of free play, ran it thru once and cashed out $12.50 and had a free lunch buffet and picked up a free mini pie from Du-pars.
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  4. #4
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Yesterday at Suncoast I had $10 of free play, ran it thru once and cashed out $12.50 and had a free lunch buffet and picked up a free mini pie from Du-pars.
    Ah, the joys of retirement!
    What, Me Worry?

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post

    Interesting that you said that. I always use winners to move up to higher denominations. I disagree with Rob who says to move down. Frankly winning $100 with AAAA was not a day-ending win... but had I won $1,000 (royal) on that $30 of free play I would have quit for the day.
    The reason I say to move down is because casinos make lots of their profits from players who are suddenly overconfident and feel they can get an even bigger thrill by doing it again on a higher denomination. It is never wrong to be satisfied with a profit off of free play or anything else.

    I'm just surprised no one has said it so I will. You've posted many times how you go into RR to get your small amount of free play and leave with whatever profit you get from running it thru once. Is that really true? I ask because I'm someone who actually does that, and it takes gobs of discipline.
    Rob, I hit the AAAA on my first $30 of free play. After that I used rising stop loss. I decided I would leave with a minimum of $30 and as I continued to play and gained wins with various Quads my rising stop loss increased. I continued to play even after hitting the royal but a different game but still at $1, and still using a rising stop loss. See the photo below.

    Yesterday at Suncoast I had $10 of free play, ran it thru once and cashed out $12.50 and had a free lunch buffet and picked up a free mini pie from Du-pars.
    Using that rising stop loss that you've used for years is certainly better than people like ap's and other fanatics and frenzied players who just play right thru royals and other big winners. That's why playing my SPS strategy was so consistently successful. You hit a small mini win goal, you go down in denom. until all those profits along with/or a larger hit attains the $2500 session win goal or greater. Then when you return for another session it's at the lowest of the six denominations. And the results were almost exactly the same whether or not I played + or - EV games....and I NEVER incorporated any of the slot club benefits into my results.

    However, I'm sure the majority of players here can admit--when they hit royals they either have a difficult time staying out of, or they rush right into, the high limit rooms, when they know they should just go home and reset.

  6. #6
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    certainly better than people like ap's and other fanatics and frenzied players who just play right thru royals and other big winners. That's why playing my SPS strategy was so consistently successful. You hit a small mini win goal, you go down in denom.
    Sounds like what John Patrick calls "regression."
    What, Me Worry?

  7. #7
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    The reason I say to move down is because casinos make lots of their profits from players who are suddenly overconfident and feel they can get an even bigger thrill by doing it again on a higher denomination. It is never wrong to be satisfied with a profit off of free play or anything else.

    I'm just surprised no one has said it so I will. You've posted many times how you go into RR to get your small amount of free play and leave with whatever profit you get from running it thru once. Is that really true? I ask because I'm someone who actually does that, and it takes gobs of discipline.
    Rob, I hit the AAAA on my first $30 of free play. After that I used rising stop loss. I decided I would leave with a minimum of $30 and as I continued to play and gained wins with various Quads my rising stop loss increased. I continued to play even after hitting the royal but a different game but still at $1, and still using a rising stop loss. See the photo below.

    Yesterday at Suncoast I had $10 of free play, ran it thru once and cashed out $12.50 and had a free lunch buffet and picked up a free mini pie from Du-pars.
    Using that rising stop loss that you've used for years is certainly better than people like ap's and other fanatics and frenzied players who just play right thru royals and other big winners. That's why playing my SPS strategy was so consistently successful. You hit a small mini win goal, you go down in denom. until all those profits along with/or a larger hit attains the $2500 session win goal or greater. Then when you return for another session it's at the lowest of the six denominations. And the results were almost exactly the same whether or not I played + or - EV games....and I NEVER incorporated any of the slot club benefits into my results.

    However, I'm sure the majority of players here can admit--when they hit royals they either have a difficult time staying out of, or they rush right into, the high limit rooms, when they know they should just go home and reset.
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  8. #8
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    The reason I say to move down is because casinos make lots of their profits from players who are suddenly overconfident and feel they can get an even bigger thrill by doing it again on a higher denomination. It is never wrong to be satisfied with a profit off of free play or anything else.

    I'm just surprised no one has said it so I will. You've posted many times how you go into RR to get your small amount of free play and leave with whatever profit you get from running it thru once. Is that really true? I ask because I'm someone who actually does that, and it takes gobs of discipline.
    Rob, I hit the AAAA on my first $30 of free play. After that I used rising stop loss. I decided I would leave with a minimum of $30 and as I continued to play and gained wins with various Quads my rising stop loss increased. I continued to play even after hitting the royal but a different game but still at $1, and still using a rising stop loss. See the photo below.

    Yesterday at Suncoast I had $10 of free play, ran it thru once and cashed out $12.50 and had a free lunch buffet and picked up a free mini pie from Du-pars.
    Using that rising stop loss that you've used for years is certainly better than people like ap's and other fanatics and frenzied players who just play right thru royals and other big winners. That's why playing my SPS strategy was so consistently successful. You hit a small mini win goal, you go down in denom. until all those profits along with/or a larger hit attains the $2500 session win goal or greater. Then when you return for another session it's at the lowest of the six denominations. And the results were almost exactly the same whether or not I played + or - EV games....and I NEVER incorporated any of the slot club benefits into my results.

    However, I'm sure the majority of players here can admit--when they hit royals they either have a difficult time staying out of, or they rush right into, the high limit rooms, when they know they should just go home and reset.
    Can I ask you a serious question without all the insults and whatnot? If not, I will assume you don't have a legitimate answer.

    Lets assume Alan or whomever is going to play the same number of hands/plays in their lifetime and denominations regardless. Assuming they are not fatigue and playing their best. Why does it matter if they play today, tomorrow, next week, next month? Is there some magic thing that happens when you quit for the day? Obviously playing less on -EV games is always better for financial reasons. But, quitting while you are ahead just seems to delay the inevitable. Since Alan and others play for entertainment, and to feed their addiction(but lets put the addition part aside for now) if they quit for the day that just stops their entertainment for the day. I won't argue that being up might put them in a good mood and bring them happiness for the rest of the day, there might be some personal value in that. But who's to say they wouldn't have won even more had they stayed and been even happier?

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