The WoV Thread

[mcap]

I’m pretty sure red has been calling this the third month of the pandemic for a good three months already now. Exactly how long is a month again?

[AxelWolf]

What specific thing would you like me to prove and how would you like me to prove it? What outrageous thing I've ever said or claimed?

I suppose I can post up some pictures of my expired slot tickets and or whatever, but that wouldn't be enough, you will demand more and more proof and more proof and you'll never be satisfied because you don't want it to be true.

Once again, as I explained to Mdawg, I've met enough people and been Advantage Playing long enough to have a history where people witnessed, seen, heard of and know the truth.

I recently talked about a griffin book I have a copy of you'd find it very rare that someone would own one of these. Of course you're going to want more and more and then you're going to want proof of how much money I have and then you'll want my medical records etc. etc.

Listen Axel, I couldn’t care less one way or the other if you were missing one leg and one arm. I certainly couldn’t pick you or anyone else on these forums out of a line-up except of course for the few that posted their pictures with their names.

I truly believe you AP casinos. You just come off at least on these forums to me more like a wise ass, wise cracking, snaky asshole. It’s because of that opinion of which I could totally be wrong, I just don’t like you.

All the wise ass snaky people I’ve come across in my life always eventually proved why I felt that way.

Everything you say what people will carry on endlessly about when demanding proof of your history, is exactly what you do and demand from everyone else that makes a claim. In your case what’s good for the goose IS NOT good for the gander.

Maybe you make so many posts because you real life is a train wreck. I have to say for the most part that most of the people I exchanged conversation with here I would want nothing to do with in the real world. I’m sure they also feel the same way.

Full time gamblers are a strange bunch and for the most part should never be trusted. Sorry, but that’s the real reputation gamblers always had and still do, and these places are full of them.

My life certainly isn't a train wreck. I'm fairly comfortable and happy. Certainly there are always aspects for improvement I never said I'm perfect, I've made plenty of mistakes and I'm sure I could have made better decisions, I'm sure we all have our faults.
If I make outrageous claims I.e. I haven't made a losing stock trade in like 10 years, I win every session of a baccarat I ever play while betting thousands per hand, I own a million-and-a-half dollar RV. I have a winning betting system that defies all logic and math. feel free to ask me to show proof.

I understand gamblers can be a strange bunch, it's a pretty diverse crowd when it comes to people's backgrounds. However, how many actual people do you know who make their living from Advantage Play? I'm not talking about people who basically just gamble a lot and claim they know what they're doing.

[MDawg]

The one guy he met off the forums says Axel showed up drunk, proceeded to get falling down drunk, passed out in his car and had to be driven home. He commented that Axel seemed like a habitual drunkard and that he would know because he's seen others like Axel bumbling around the Vegas Strip all the time he's lived here. That's the only first hand experience I've read of anyone's "Axel encounter."

[Darkoz]

The one guy he met off the forums says Axel showed up drunk, proceeded to get falling down drunk, passed out in his car and had to be driven home. He commented that Axel seemed like a habitual drunkard and that he would know because he's seen others like Axel bumbling around the Vegas Strip all the time he's lived here. That's the only first hand experience I've read of anyone's "Axel encounter."

Axel has met plenty of people off the forums including myself. He drove my family around the city. He wasn't drunk to my knowledge although it was early afternoon

[AxelWolf]

The one guy he met off the forums says Axel showed up drunk, proceeded to get falling down drunk, passed out in his car and had to be driven home. He commented that Axel seemed like a habitual drunkard and that he would know because he's seen others like Axel bumbling around the Vegas Strip all the time he's lived here. That's the only first hand experience I've read of anyone's "Axel encounter."

That's an absolute lie that I showed up drunk, I highly doubt it was at a casino either.
Feel free to ask that person if I was drinking the time prior that when they met me. Define passing out VS falling asleep. There's a very few times if ever someone couldn't wake me up.

In about 2013 I started drinking more than I should whenever I went out socializing, admittedly I can overdo it. I may have drank at my home a total of three times over 30 years.


Big deal, I'm a big boy, and I can drink all I want. I can out drink most people twice my weight and still function obviously there's a point where I'm going to be pretty damn drunk. I have never tried to hide it and I'm certainly not ashamed of drinking. My wife never complained, unless I stayed out too late without calling her.

I'll tell you what, come on down to Vegas. I'll drink 5 shots in a row and proceeded to play you No Limit/ Pot Limit heads up and you can be a completely sober.

While drinking too much at a Super Bowl party I proclaimed I could go A year Without drinking no problem, that sparked off over $3,000 in bets. I was offered to back out the next day if I wanted to, I said no thanks, I'm honoring my bet, I proceeded to win that bet a few days after last year's Super Bowl without a problem. Since then I have drank a total of 2 times, once at a party and once while celebrating my brother's birthday.

[AxelWolf]

The one guy he met off the forums says Axel showed up drunk, proceeded to get falling down drunk, passed out in his car and had to be driven home. He commented that Axel seemed like a habitual drunkard and that he would know because he's seen others like Axel bumbling around the Vegas Strip all the time he's lived here. That's the only first hand experience I've read of anyone's "Axel encounter."

Axel has met plenty of people off the forums including myself. He drove my family around the city. He wasn't drunk to my knowledge although it was early afternoon

I would never be driving anyone around drunk, nor did I have any drinks before picking you up.

[blackhole]

I understand gamblers can be a strange bunch, it's a pretty diverse crowd when it comes to people's backgrounds.

Be it right or wrong, I stand by what the main stream world reputation of full-time gamblers is. "Full time gamblers are a strange bunch and for the most part should never be trusted. Sorry, but that’s the real reputation gamblers always had and still do, and these places are full of them."

You participated in over 30,000 posts that I know of. How many you actually made god only knows. Almost all of the conversations on these forums are 100% bullshit, backstabbing, whose cocks are bigger, who makes and has more money, who’s smarter, who fucked who, endless bullshit bets never happening, endless bullshit alleged wins never happening, phonies standing up for other phonies who never meet before, assholes like Mike Shank getting all types of creditability from other assholes coming out of the same sewer loaded with everything I said above.

I could go on with endless adjectives describing the forums it appears you spend most of your time socializing at. You may see these places different than I do, but I could assure you that’s the biggest difference that separates you from me.

You live a life of 24/7 risk and bullshit. Good luck and continued success.

[mickeycrimm]

I understand gamblers can be a strange bunch, it's a pretty diverse crowd when it comes to people's backgrounds.

Be it right or wrong, I stand by what the main stream world reputation of full-time gamblers is. "Full time gamblers are a strange bunch and for the most part should never be trusted. Sorry, but that’s the real reputation gamblers always had and still do, and these places are full of them."

You participated in over 30,000 posts that I know of. How many you actually made god only knows. Almost all of the conversations on these forums are 100% bullshit, backstabbing, whose cocks are bigger, who makes and has more money, who’s smarter, who fucked who, endless bullshit bets never happening, endless bullshit alleged wins never happening, phonies standing up for other phonies who never meet before, assholes like Mike Shank getting all types of creditability from other assholes coming out of the same sewer loaded with everything I said above.

I could go on with endless adjectives describing the forums it appears you spend most of your time socializing at. You may see these places different than I do, but I could assure you that’s the biggest difference that separates you from me.

You live a life of 24/7 risk and bullshit. Good luck and continued success.

And you, stinkhole, continue to place yourself right here among us. Says tons about you. Well, pigs do like mud.

[blackhole]

And you, stinkhole, continue to place yourself right here among us. Says tons about you. Well, pigs do like mud.

Sorry, if I don’t respond to you seriously Mickey. Don’t feel like talking about Cocks, Balls, Fucking and Licking Assholes etc. etc. etc.

That's all you have left and it's played out.

[Mission146]

The one guy he met off the forums says Axel showed up drunk, proceeded to get falling down drunk, passed out in his car and had to be driven home. He commented that Axel seemed like a habitual drunkard and that he would know because he's seen others like Axel bumbling around the Vegas Strip all the time he's lived here. That's the only first hand experience I've read of anyone's "Axel encounter."

Ummm...the One guy Axel met? Do you know how many people from the forums have met Axel? Myself included.

[MaxPen]

The one guy he met off the forums says Axel showed up drunk, proceeded to get falling down drunk, passed out in his car and had to be driven home. He commented that Axel seemed like a habitual drunkard and that he would know because he's seen others like Axel bumbling around the Vegas Strip all the time he's lived here. That's the only first hand experience I've read of anyone's "Axel encounter."

To be fair, I think you're referring to what Monet said. Monet has yet to meet anyone from the forums that he hasn't talked shit about afterward. As far as I know.

[Darkoz]

The one guy he met off the forums says Axel showed up drunk, proceeded to get falling down drunk, passed out in his car and had to be driven home. He commented that Axel seemed like a habitual drunkard and that he would know because he's seen others like Axel bumbling around the Vegas Strip all the time he's lived here. That's the only first hand experience I've read of anyone's "Axel encounter."

Axel has met plenty of people off the forums including myself. He drove my family around the city. He wasn't drunk to my knowledge although it was early afternoon

I would never be driving anyone around drunk, nor did I have any drinks before picking you up.

To be clear I meant it was early in the afternoon so I figured you didn't have any drinks. It later in the evening you might have.

I guess I assume people don't drink till later. My current GF keeps saying it's five o'clock somewhere so she don't care what time of day it is

[Darkoz]

I understand gamblers can be a strange bunch, it's a pretty diverse crowd when it comes to people's backgrounds.

Be it right or wrong, I stand by what the main stream world reputation of full-time gamblers is. "Full time gamblers are a strange bunch and for the most part should never be trusted. Sorry, but that’s the real reputation gamblers always had and still do, and these places are full of them."

You participated in over 30,000 posts that I know of. How many you actually made god only knows. Almost all of the conversations on these forums are 100% bullshit, backstabbing, whose cocks are bigger, who makes and has more money, who’s smarter, who fucked who, endless bullshit bets never happening, endless bullshit alleged wins never happening, phonies standing up for other phonies who never meet before, assholes like Mike Shank getting all types of creditability from other assholes coming out of the same sewer loaded with everything I said above.

I could go on with endless adjectives describing the forums it appears you spend most of your time socializing at. You may see these places different than I do, but I could assure you that’s the biggest difference that separates you from me.

You live a life of 24/7 risk and bullshit. Good luck and continued success.

A full time gambler is not an Advantage Player.

[MDawg]

Big deal, I'm a big boy, and I can drink all I want. I can out drink most people twice my weight and still function

I'll tell you what, come on down to Vegas. I'll drink 5 shots in a row and proceeded to play you No Limit/ Pot Limit heads up and you can be a completely sober.

[AxelWolf]

I understand gamblers can be a strange bunch, it's a pretty diverse crowd when it comes to people's backgrounds.

Be it right or wrong, I stand by what the main stream world reputation of full-time gamblers is. "Full time gamblers are a strange bunch and for the most part should never be trusted. Sorry, but that’s the real reputation gamblers always had and still do, and these places are full of them."

You participated in over 30,000 posts that I know of. How many you actually made god only knows. Almost all of the conversations on these forums are 100% bullshit, backstabbing, whose cocks are bigger, who makes and has more money, who’s smarter, who fucked who, endless bullshit bets never happening, endless bullshit alleged wins never happening, phonies standing up for other phonies who never meet before, assholes like Mike Shank getting all types of creditability from other assholes coming out of the same sewer loaded with everything I said above.

I could go on with endless adjectives describing the forums it appears you spend most of your time socializing at. You may see these places different than I do, but I could assure you that’s the biggest difference that separates you from me.

You live a life of 24/7 risk and bullshit. Good luck and continued success.

30000 posts? How does it feel knowing that your facts are off by about 30%?

It's certainly true that I have a circle of friends that I have met via the forums, that would make sense since there's a number of people in the gaming industry, Advantage Players, and people who like to gamble smarter who also participate on these forums. It's not all that strange make connections with people online anymore. As a matter of fact, I think it's the new way.

However, I socialize with plenty of people that don't participate on gambling forums.
I rarely ever participated on any Forum prior to 2012 during that time my social group consisted about 90% of people that didn't have anything to do with gambling.

Again, I ask how many actual Advantage Players do you know? There's a huge difference between degenerate gamblers and Advantage Players.

I agree, there are multiple phonies on here.

"phonies standing up for other phonies who never meet before" other than possibly a few outliers, do you have any evidence to back this up, or is this just some speculation on your part? I'm not sure how anyone can trust your judgment considering how you started off your previous post when you said "You participated in over 30,000 posts that I know of." and yet you were off by over 30%.

[jbjb]

I'd say he has you confused with Evenbob but EB has somewhere in the realm of 492,000 posts over his lifetime.

[AxelWolf]

Big deal, I'm a big boy, and I can drink all I want. I can out drink most people twice my weight and still function

I'll tell you what, come on down to Vegas. I'll drink 5 shots in a row and proceeded to play you No Limit/ Pot Limit heads up and you can be a completely sober.

Yeah, so what?
I think I'm just fine considering the fact that I stopped immediately when I wanted to and I've only dank twice in 16 months.

I'm still waiting for you to quote some things you claim I said/knew to be true.

You can start off by accepting or declining my heads up poker challenge without any b******* excuses. I know damn well you'll try to make up some b******* excuse.
You can always just claim that you never want to meet me because of whatever reason, you already attempted that once when the s*** got rough for you. But you have since backtracked on that a little bit, so who knows.

Or you'll just keep avoiding that and everything else I've asked you to prove or comment on.

[AxelWolf]

The one guy he met off the forums says Axel showed up drunk, proceeded to get falling down drunk, passed out in his car and had to be driven home. He commented that Axel seemed like a habitual drunkard and that he would know because he's seen others like Axel bumbling around the Vegas Strip all the time he's lived here. That's the only first hand experience I've read of anyone's "Axel encounter."

Ummm...the One guy Axel met? Do you know how many people from the forums have met Axel? Myself included.

It's obviously he's cherry picking and then lying about it.

I'm too lazy to go back and look, but I'm fairly certain Dr. SooPoo commented recently about meeting me number of times and you know God damn well Mdawg read that post.

I'm sure if I wanted to go back and search for posts made on Wizard of Vegas regarding people that have met me, there would certainly be more than a few.

[MDawg]

I'm not like you - I don't make tens of thousands of posts merely commenting on what others have done.

I make my own content - I post about what I have done.

Tell me again please why I should be in a hurry to respond to your request to post more examples of where others have ridiculed you, or you've ridiculed yourself?
When I have the time.

[AxelWolf]

Axel has met plenty of people off the forums including myself. He drove my family around the city. He wasn't drunk to my knowledge although it was early afternoon

I would never be driving anyone around drunk, nor did I have any drinks before picking you up.

To be clear I meant it was early in the afternoon so I figured you didn't have any drinks. It later in the evening you might have.

I guess I assume people don't drink till later. My current GF keeps saying it's five o'clock somewhere so she don't care what time of day it is

If I recall correctly, that was the year I suggested we set up a private Suite so we could have food/ drinks and people could play chess, backgammon, poker and socialize. I was heavily involved in setting that up if I recall correctly I brought most of the supplies the help of some other members on the team, so I probably didn't have time to have any drinks until later in the evening. I obviously didn't drink too much because my wife and I was able to get back there and finish up cleaning the place up and retrieve everything that had been left behind.