Alan vs. KJ

[Mission146]

I just don't know who the, 'Gay,' thing is supposedly throwing off. Is the idea that casinos would assume that this person would be a, "Flamboyantly," gay card counter?

Like, you're going to have the casinos so busy looking for flamboyantly gay card counters (even though nothing that you have ever said would point to you being flamboyant) that they're going to miss all the straight ones?

Honestly, I just don't completely understand your motivations for (as you now claim) lying about that. I'd automatically kind of figured anything about physical appearance (not that I ever remember you even saying anything) would be automatically untrue, of course. It just seems to me that being gay wouldn't even be relevant from the standpoint of the casinos. Do you think the casinos are looking for someone like Nathan Lane's character stepping directly out of The Birdcage? My limited experience with gay people is that, most of the time, you wouldn't even know if they didn't tell you...of course, that's not always true and is sometimes very untrue.

[kewlJ]

I just don't know who the, 'Gay,' thing is supposedly throwing off. Is the idea that casinos would assume that this person would be a, "Flamboyantly," gay card counter?

The gay "thing" was only one characteristic of the whole thing. I have dropped dates that indicate my age. That 5'9", 160 lbs description that Ozzy keeps repeating, that he thinks he stumbled on....where did that come from? I have mentioned it along with that I was within 5 lbs of my weight in high school when I played baseball at 150 lbs.

People didn't come up with these things. I planted these things. And guess what, I am NOT 5'9", 155-160 lbs, blond hair blue eyes. Nor am I the age I planted. You put that all together with the gay characteristic and anyone looking for me, casino industry people as well as these trolls, which really wasn't part of the plan, where looking for a ghost.

And here is another thing. I went to and graduated college. I am not going to say where although I believe I have mentioned what my favorite college sports team is in some sports threads.

3 things I received from my father. Pretty good genes. His good name. And the ability to go to college because as a federal employee killed on the job, that is a benefit to surviving children.

So the gay thing was just a small piece. I presented a disguise of who I am, so that I could share some of my blackjack experiences almost in real time without danger.

[monet]

My limited experience with gay people is that, most of the time, you wouldn't even know if they didn't tell you...of course, that's not always true and is sometimes very untrue.

Limited Experience??
Your sister is queer.
You have more than a limited amount of experience with gay people.
Aren't you the guy in the Hotel Business who has seen every sort and knows all about different types of people??
Make up your mind.
Stop flip flopping like QueerJ.

[Mission146]

My limited experience with gay people is that, most of the time, you wouldn't even know if they didn't tell you...of course, that's not always true and is sometimes very untrue.

Limited Experience??
Your sister is queer.
You have more than a limited amount of experience with gay people.
Aren't you the guy in the Hotel Business who has seen every sort and knows all about different types of people??
Make up your mind.
Stop flip flopping like QueerJ.

I'd still say limited experience. I've certainly never been gay and I've only had a few gay acquaintances. Basically, my sister, any girlfriends she has had, my fiancee's brother, his boyfriend and I've had a handful of personal friends that were either homosexual men or homosexual women. As far as personal friends, one of my better friends at the first college I attended was a gay dude and, at the second college, I was friends (but not particularly close friends) with one gay dude and I worked with another at the furniture store and would sometimes grab a bite to eat with him outside of work hours.

I had several bisexual female friends, but it seems just about every other female between the ages of 16-25 claimed to be bisexual around that time, don't know if that's still true, so who the hell knows if they still are. Aside from that, I had one pretty good friend who was 100% lesbian...and you would basically come to that conclusion just to look at her...we'd often watch NFL in the bar and yell at the TV together when I was younger.

My point is that I don't have any great amount of insight and didn't want to make it sound like I deeply understand gay culture, because I don't. I just treat/befriend gay people the same as I would straight people.