Alan Mendelson Going For The Jugular

[kewlJ]

Have you ever been married to a woman? Or had a serious girlfriend?

Nope!

[coach belly]

Have you ever been married to a woman? Or had a serious girlfriend?

Nope!

Then look at your mother's life...was it weird for her to have been married more than once?

[Rob.Singer]

KJ and redietz have both had barrels of fun trolling in this thread. And redietz has been having some fun trolling Rob in the Singer thread at WoV. But I have to take Mr. Dietz to task for some of the things he wrote in that thread. I'll use quotes for his remarks.

"Singer had glommed on to Alan to ramp up his notoriety."

This is red's opinion but he writes it like it is fact. It is just pure speculation on redietz's part.

"Singer decided to go with the double up bug story, which makes halfway sense in explaining some things. If he was involved in that he did not "discover it." He would have been an errand boy, a kind of video poker equivalent of a "runner" in sportsbetting terminology."

This is where redietz really goes off the deep end. I can understand having a runner in sportbetting where the professional is running high volume with not so big an edge and can afford to pay runners. But the double up bug is a play where if you got $100 in your pocket you are good to go. Sure there have been machine pros that have hired people. I have even been asked to go to work for them. I always turned that shit down because there were always low wager/low risk plays available to make money. And on this double up play were I offered a job when I got only $200 in my pocket my answer would have been:

"This play only takes a hundred dollar bill and you are good to go. WTF would I work for you. GTFO!" You have to give Rob some credit somewhere. He's to smart to accept being a runner on a play that just don't take any money to start it.

How would redietz know whether Rob discovered the play or not. Did he have any evidence to draw that conclusion? NO!!! But as we all know redietz likes to frame his opinions as facts.

What the heck is a "runner"? Does that mean red's claiming someone else discovered the play in '04 and I put on my loafers and said "yez boss"? Huh?

Also, Alan found me and wanted to do a whole lot more than he did.
WTF does glommed mean?

Weird. Just plain weird.

[mickeycrimm]

KJ and redietz have both had barrels of fun trolling in this thread. And redietz has been having some fun trolling Rob in the Singer thread at WoV. But I have to take Mr. Dietz to task for some of the things he wrote in that thread. I'll use quotes for his remarks.

"Singer had glommed on to Alan to ramp up his notoriety."

This is red's opinion but he writes it like it is fact. It is just pure speculation on redietz's part.

"Singer decided to go with the double up bug story, which makes halfway sense in explaining some things. If he was involved in that he did not "discover it." He would have been an errand boy, a kind of video poker equivalent of a "runner" in sportsbetting terminology."

This is where redietz really goes off the deep end. I can understand having a runner in sportbetting where the professional is running high volume with not so big an edge and can afford to pay runners. But the double up bug is a play where if you got $100 in your pocket you are good to go. Sure there have been machine pros that have hired people. I have even been asked to go to work for them. I always turned that shit down because there were always low wager/low risk plays available to make money. And on this double up play were I offered a job when I got only $200 in my pocket my answer would have been:

"This play only takes a hundred dollar bill and you are good to go. WTF would I work for you. GTFO!" You have to give Rob some credit somewhere. He's to smart to accept being a runner on a play that just don't take any money to start it.

How would redietz know whether Rob discovered the play or not. Did he have any evidence to draw that conclusion? NO!!! But as we all know redietz likes to frame his opinions as facts.

What the heck is a "runner"? Does that mean red's claiming someone else discovered the play in '04 and I put on my loafers and said "yez boss"? Huh?

My guess is it means someone that makes bets in the sportsbooks for you. But yes, redeitz is saying you were a flunky on the play.

[kewlJ]

Have you ever been married to a woman? Or had a serious girlfriend?

Nope!

Then look at your mother's life...was it weird for her to have been married more than once?

Look, I am not judging. relationships are hard to begin with. And people grow apart. Usually no ONE person is to blame and that goes for even if one has cheated on the other. There still is the breakdown that lead to them growing apart and almost always there is enough blame to go around.

So while I wouldn't characterize any marriage or relationship that ends as a failure, I think if 5 marriages end in divorce, I might begin to wonder??? Yikes!

Do these marriages of Alan's last years or days and weeks? I mean is he tricking them into thinking he has money or something and then when they find out the truth....?? what exactly is going on?

And BTW, isn't there support issues with divorce? Alimony and stuff? How can Alan afford all that?

[coach belly]

I am not judging.

You are judging.

Gay marriage is a relatively new phenomenon,
but how may times have you been in love? Less than 5?

Is it weird that you broke up and found someone else?

[Rob.Singer]

KJ and redietz have both had barrels of fun trolling in this thread. And redietz has been having some fun trolling Rob in the Singer thread at WoV. But I have to take Mr. Dietz to task for some of the things he wrote in that thread. I'll use quotes for his remarks.

"Singer had glommed on to Alan to ramp up his notoriety."

This is red's opinion but he writes it like it is fact. It is just pure speculation on redietz's part.

"Singer decided to go with the double up bug story, which makes halfway sense in explaining some things. If he was involved in that he did not "discover it." He would have been an errand boy, a kind of video poker equivalent of a "runner" in sportsbetting terminology."

This is where redietz really goes off the deep end. I can understand having a runner in sportbetting where the professional is running high volume with not so big an edge and can afford to pay runners. But the double up bug is a play where if you got $100 in your pocket you are good to go. Sure there have been machine pros that have hired people. I have even been asked to go to work for them. I always turned that shit down because there were always low wager/low risk plays available to make money. And on this double up play were I offered a job when I got only $200 in my pocket my answer would have been:

"This play only takes a hundred dollar bill and you are good to go. WTF would I work for you. GTFO!" You have to give Rob some credit somewhere. He's to smart to accept being a runner on a play that just don't take any money to start it.

How would redietz know whether Rob discovered the play or not. Did he have any evidence to draw that conclusion? NO!!! But as we all know redietz likes to frame his opinions as facts.

What the heck is a "runner"? Does that mean red's claiming someone else discovered the play in '04 and I put on my loafers and said "yez boss"? Huh?

My guess is it means someone that makes bets in the sportsbooks for you. But yes, redeitz is saying you were a flunky on the play.

Then the fact that he would claim something like that without any knowledge whatsoever goes a long way in explaning many of the things he says.

[redietz]

What the heck is a "runner"? Does that mean red's claiming someone else discovered the play in '04 and I put on my loafers and said "yez boss"? Huh?

My guess is it means someone that makes bets in the sportsbooks for you. But yes, redeitz is saying you were a flunky on the play.

Then the fact that he would claim something like that without any knowledge whatsoever goes a long way in explaning many of the things he says.

I know a little more than you might think I know. Let me put it this way, I guarantee that your story of discovering the glitch on the Best Buys site is complete nonsense. A fabrication.

[mickeycrimm]

I know a little more than you might think I know. Let me put it this way, I guarantee that your story of discovering the glitch on the Best Buys site is complete nonsense. A fabrication.

Until you put up the evidence you're just a bald faced liar.

[redietz]

Well, mickey, I was hoping you'd say that. Interesting thing about the "Singer" origin story on Best Buys. There is no evidence to support it. None.

[coach belly]

Well, mickey, I was hoping you'd say that. Interesting thing about the "Singer" origin story on Best Buys. There is no evidence to support it. None.

What is stopping you from posting the information that you have?

[mickeycrimm]

Well, mickey, I was hoping you'd say that. Interesting thing about the "Singer" origin story on Best Buys. There is no evidence to support it. None.

Did you base your guarantee that the story is not true on that.

[redietz]

Well, mickey, I was hoping you'd say that. Interesting thing about the "Singer" origin story on Best Buys. There is no evidence to support it. None.

Did you base your guarantee that the story is not true on that.

In a word, no.

But I hope you recognize that, based on your comments, Rob must also be a bald-faced liar since he offered no evidence. That bald-faced lying goes both ways. Or maybe with you it doesn't, eh?

[Rob.Singer]

Well, mickey, I was hoping you'd say that. Interesting thing about the "Singer" origin story on Best Buys. There is no evidence to support it. None.

Did you base your guarantee that the story is not true on that.

In a word, no.

But I hope you recognize that, based on your comments, Rob must also be a bald-faced liar since he offered no evidence. That bald-faced lying goes both ways. Or maybe with you it doesn't, eh?

Weird. Just plain weird.

[Rob.Singer]

I finally found out how to get into the WoV forum where all this activity about Alan is happening. And you know what I see? Alan furiously keeps reading this forum to correct dumb mistakes and lies he's feeding those people. There's two GLARING instances, which I'll be happy to point out to them if wizard discusses any of it with me.

First, remember how Alan claims I "duped" him so he just HAD to report it out of some type of duty? Well, he had a long, long time to say something, but as I said earlier, he curiously didn't say a thing until after I scolded him for his antics as "AndrewG" when I posted a win.

Which brings me to his second blooper. In his latest WoV post, he's now claiming "oh, how he struggled mightily for over a year" on how to report what I had told him. Yes that's right....right after I questioned his timing right here. Right after I admitted that I always had firmly believed he was a degenerate gambler, and for what reasons, right here!

The guy is making it up as he goes over there, then he jumpsover here, reads posts, then scrambles back there to fabricate history. CNN wouldn't even hire such a hack.

[Ozzy]

In the spirit of RE-OPENING AMERICA, I've decided to accept wiz's offer.

Has a banned member ever gotten their own forum thread at WOV before?

Alan thought he needed permission to even type the words Rob Singer.

If the wizard gave two shits about the forum anymore, he would unban Singer, and let him posts again, reviving that forum on life support. They would get triple the daily views, if they unbanned just a few of the old legends including Jerry Logan...wait a minute...

[kewlJ]

Rob, earlier you asked what kind of evidence you could provide. When I made suggestions, you had the reasons why you couldn't (threw away all documentation) already loaded and ready to fire. But I offered a second suggestion that you completely ignored. So I will ask again. Can you provide any of those many people that you trained over the 10 year period? And not some sock puppet joining here, but real live flesh and breathing people that could meet with Mike and/or Alan and be videoed. I mean you taught these people a life-changing system. Surely they would be willing to do this for you.

[Rob.Singer]

Rob, earlier you asked what kind of evidence you could provide. When I made suggestions, you had the reasons why you couldn't (threw away all documentation) already loaded and ready to fire. But I offered a second suggestion that you completely ignored. So I will ask again. Can you provide any of those many people that you trained over the 10 year period? And not some sock puppet joining here, but real live flesh and breathing people that could meet with Mike and/or Alan and be videoed. I mean you taught these people a life-changing system. Surely they would be willing to do this for you.

And if you read what I posted last year you'd have seen where I only know of one person I've trained, out of hundreds, who has the bankroll, aptitude, and desire to play my exact strategy successfully, which he still does. He does not post on forums and when asked he said no. He lives in housing across from SP.

The vast majority of those I've trained use my lessons in some form of formulating their own strategy, to play more enjoyably and to win or lose less. I didn't keep names and numbers and even if I did and they came on here to support what I did, you'd either say I'm using socks, or I'm paying them to say what they say. Same with that idiot redietz. He's probably claiming they all died of coronavirus.

Kew, do you keep 10-15 years of tax returns? I never have, and I guarantee our forms are much more involved than yours. If you do retain them past the required 3 or 7 years, why?

[kewlJ]

But you DO agree I've said many times that I HAVE played my strategy for 4 years, and that I trained people on it for 10 years? Alan claims I said I never played it.

Alan's feeling duped. Poor fellow. He should call Gaming Today and ask them how much they cared about the truth when I apologized to them.

3. I don't know if he's claiming I never taught anyone on my strategy or not, but I did, and for the entire 10 years.

Rob, this just doesn't fly. You made these two quotes just today. Bragging that you had successfully trained people for 10 years to play this magical system. Then when asked to produce even one of these people, suddenly only one had the bankroll and you can't produce him.

Rob, you just have zero credibility.

[MDawg]

Rob answered my Q about how much he won.

Next - and perhaps this is already posted and out there, but for whatever reason no one seems to be discussing it:
How much exactly did he win over which exact years with his first method (whatever that was), and how much exactly did he win with this second method he calls the "double up," and over which exact years?

If he has mentioned the years and the amounts, has the story always been consistent?

And then now, and this is the first I've heard of this, he mentions some method that is teachable. That doesn't seem to fit either taking advantage of a double up "bug" or the manipulation of "video poker machines to produce wins and payoffs [that] might have been illegal" which Alan mentions. So is this something new, his claim that he has a teachable method that he has in fact taught, or has he been saying this all along?

If I were the Wizard interviewing him I would nail down these facts: How Much, When, and How. That last "interview" of his that the Wiz did was very general.

In any case, if Rob's posted consistently about whatever he's done over the years, that says something. Maybe not everything, but it does say something. If however the story has shifted and changed, that also says something.

As far as its being a long time ago, and he can't remember what exactly happened...that is malarky. I remember like it was yesterday almost every trip I took from before my decade or so hiatus as far as the rough numbers on each trip, and there were dozens and dozens from my play from before that long break, and I certainly remember every trip from the past two years. I've been posting about all these trips for a couple years now, and have never contradicted myself as far as posting something one day and then later posting something entirely different.

As far as these "investigators" like Axel, he's worthless. The one guy he claims that he "unearthed" (SigfriedRoy), Axel can't even remember why he thinks the guy is a fraud.

So I wouldn't base my opinion on Rob on what anyone says, but on what he has himself said. Can he remember exactly when and what he won, and how? And has he posted about this consistently without contradiction over the years?