Who cares where it’s heading?....people come or don’t come here because they want or don’t want to....That said, the guy that Dan banned is obviously a mental midget with absolutely nothing to lose, and with the IQ of your common house fly
Who cares where it’s heading?....people come or don’t come here because they want or don’t want to....That said, the guy that Dan banned is obviously a mental midget with absolutely nothing to lose, and with the IQ of your common house fly
Explain why you "care" so much and find a constant need to harrass Dan over the way he runs his forum. How does it in any way effect whatever quality of life you think you have? The "direction" this forum is headed? Really? You are so thick. Normal people use this forum as a form of entertainment. You're the only one with an incessant need to force his will on other people. If I or anyone chooses to play contrary to your armchair theory--win or lose--how does that in any way insult your babbling fantasy life so that you spend hour after hour railing about it? Clearly, you don't belong here.
If you didn't want to be laughed at for being gay then you should never have brought it forward in the first place. And enuf about axel being the first to expose it--no one would have known or cared until you blabbed it. So stop beng such a whiny-ass punk--you reap what you sow. Homos thankfully don't even make up 1.5% of our population. It's YOU people who feel they're entitled to special treatment, and it's YOU people who are to blame for making the wrong choices in life that clearly runs against simple common sense. If you want more T-O-L-E-R-A-N-C-E and D-I-V-E-R-S-I-T-Y and I-N-C-L-U-S-I-V-I-T-Y, just move to NYC where all the country's most confused people in need of help reside.
YOU are the problem here.
FUCK YOU!
I do not poke, and run. The best way to deal with anyone on these boards, is by being open and straight forward. Argue it out win some lose some but, people will respect you more, as it has worked for me all along. Evidently I know very little about this sites history, so I will stay to the sidelines for a while. One thing that I have noticed is a little bit of piling on, or ganging up on one individual which is rather chicken shit.
Blackhole, would you care to enlighten the readers about any particular post from Rob that you might not consider "balls dead on?"
Like, oh, I don't know, do you find the sudden 200% appreciation of his $1.5 million RV that is somehow banned from California and Nevada "dead balls on?"
LOL. Blackhole, really, your hypocrisy runneth over.
Yes, I was the first person to bring it up here and I shouldn't have, I apologize to KJ for doing so.
I'm not making any excuses for my actions, but I would like to say, it was no secret since he himself came out on WOV. Also, it was well known on GF where people like people like LarryS, MR.V, Boz, MC, RS_ myself and many others posted, who now participate here.
I have no doubt it was going to be mentioned here sooner rather than later. I may not think its a big deal and one should be proud of who they are wherever they go, however, I have never been in JK's shoes, so I don't know what kinda bigotry and hatred he's had to put up with based on his sexuality. I guess it would suck if whenever you are in an argument with somome they just start bashing you for being gay.
Thank you AxelWolf. I accept your apology. From knowing you for a while now on several forums, I do recognize that you and your friends like to joke around with your gay humor (alot like kids in jr high ). That's ok. I am not opposed to joking around on a friendly basis. You and I even have done some of that on past forums. But this forum is not a friendly forum. And you were here a solid year before I and several others began posting in summer of 2017, so should have known about how nasty some of the members, like a Rob Singer and Blackhole are and just what they would do with that information.
It is really just them two and we are back to them two again. The other ant-AP fraction, the "confederate of dunces" like coach belly and slingshot I don't believe have or would use homophobic slurs as part of their anti-AP argument. Nor did Alan when he was here.
Because that's the thing, a person can have differing opinions on a subject, even a subject like advantage play or any of the more specific discussions and arguments that have come from that, without getting into attacks on someone's race, nationality, sexuality and without attacking spouses members of ones family who have passed. If that is what it is down to, that you feel you should attack these things, then you really have no argument in the discussion, you are just proving you are filled with hate.
So kudo's to coach belly and slapshot for not following the lead of our two resident haters and stooping to that level, but instead keeping their argument and dissent on the topic of AP or whatever off-shoot it is.
Last edited by mickeycrimm; 02-23-2019 at 07:39 PM.
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Listen to this douche bag. Why do you care? It's a forum. It's just entertainment for most of us.
This is the douche bag that upon being banned from this forum, snuck back in 3 confirmed times as a sockpuppet (likely many more), then lobbied Dan Druff for re-instatement because his life wasn't complete without this forum, and finally agreed to terms of re-instatement of not trolling and limiting his comments to one thread, which because of his need to attack everything and everyone...once again proved himself a liar.
And for those like Monet, criticizing me for Moses banning, did you read Dan Druff' s announcement of this banning? Many members, multiple members complained that this person's threats were far over the line, including "members that don't like each other" (as Dan put it). THAT tells you that for most people there is a line of what's acceptable behavior.
Take a look at the people on this forum that are banned elsewhere.
Yes, there is me. But I am banned for politics in the blackjack community and a feud with 1 person.
Mickeycrimm. Very unique situation. He was banned because of the posts he made when drinking. I am not making excuses for it and neither did mickey. And he has overcome that problem in his life. Continued congratulations on that mickeycrimm.
But people like Rob Singer and Moses have been banned at almost every forum they participate at for trolling and attacks. And both are known as frequent sock puppet users, so who even knows how many times they have really been banned. Maybe hundreds. These are people that just cannot behave in the boundaries of decency. In the real world there behavior would result in them being in jail. On forums they have the distinction of being banned and unwelcome at most places. Blackhole, I don't know about his banning history. I suspect he is smart enough to know where he can and can't get away with his hate and attacks.
If the majority of the forum members want this to be a hate forum of the nature of a gambler's glen or Zenzone, where anything goes (both by the way have died off or are about to with ZZ having one member posting), fine. But I don't think that is the case. I think there are 2 or 3 vocal haters that want that. And unfortunately most other members don't speak up and voice there displeasure by just being lurkers or leaving all together. Is it right that 2 or 3 nasty, bitter, hateful members set the agenda?
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Here is link to Moses on ZenZone.
http://www.zenzoneforum.com/forums/6...ty-Miscellanea
He mentioned he sent a private message to Dan D. if he was coming on too strong and he didn't receive an answer. Maybe the cops contacted Dan and he had no choice but to ban Moses. But for first offense I don't like to see a permanent ban. I warned Moses about his behavior over at BJTF and he didn't listen. I do think if he did come back he would go back to his old ways, but I think he should be given the chance to behave properly as others have been given second chances.
Definitely looks like Dan made the right decision on this one. How long has that dude been talking to himself? Looks like months, maybe years. That's the classic definition of nuttiness.
Edit;
I guess when voices in your head talk back it is technically not talking to yourself.
Last edited by MaxPen; 02-23-2019 at 11:58 PM.
This post confirms how lonely and dumb you really are. It takes on the same theme as the bs redietz is apparently forced to post about me--only I understand your's better.
If someone new came here they'd learn this fast: all you do is complain and bellyache about how unhappy you are here, blaming everyone but yourself. In the normal world, normal people close the door on unpleasant situations. Why exactly do you stick around? Nobody likes you--that you know. And do you really think axel's queer-bashing is some cute schoolboy activity? How stupid can you be?? Think about it: your new best bud is mickeycrimm
Just pack up and leave kew. Nobody cares if you have anywhere else to take your tired show. Just go.
Midwest Player, I have no issues with you, but you have always been a bit of a troublemaker. A guy who likes to stir the pot. You aren't doing Moses any favors with your "I feel bad for him, let's give him a second chance" shit. And even worse you aren't sincere, you are just trying to stir the pot and create trouble, as you often do.
Moses is a deeply troubled person. I am not encouraging anyone to continue to read his rants to himself, but anyone who does will come to the same conclusion as MaxPen, who I guess just did read some. He appears to be getting worse. And he is getting himself into real trouble as I suspect at this point the police are reading his continuing threats, as they are aware of that site.
Stop encouraging him MWP, he is going to end up in jail. And if he does, he will have no one to blame but himself. I tried to tell him he was way over the line for several days before I did anything about it. Other members here told him he was over the line. Numerous members that don't even like me, complained to Dan that he was way over the line. And yet he continued. He even asked Dan if it was alright for him to continue to make illegal threats against people. That is the level of bizarreness we are talking about.
A couple people here mentioned how he seems to have gotten much worse in the past couple weeks. Those of us dealing with him for years have witnessed that over and over. I suspect he has some sort of bi-polar or mental condition that required medication and at times he goes off his meds (and off the deep end).
But whatever, if you really care about him MWP, and I suspect you really don't, but if you do, stop encouraging him, before he ends up in jail or dead. Let him just fade away. Because it is all about the spotlight, so once that is gone, hopefully he just disappears and goes back to his little existence as a low roller gambler, sports bettor.
In light of developments of the past few days, I have decided to step away from this site. I don't say that in the heat of the moment as I have other times. I have been considering this for a couple days now. For a very long-time I have known there is no benefit to me continuing to post here. It has been mostly entertainment. But we have now crossed into a real detriment.
If I have to go to the police and file a report because a member of this site, or any site is threatening to track me down, then we are into very negative territory as far as is it worth it to me. I take the physical thread seriously because I am dealing with a very unstable person. But just as important is the threat to identify me and out me to pit personnel around town. Certainly no AP would consider such a thing against another AP, and that makes clear that we are not dealing with an AP. We are dealing with a very sick, troubled, angry and seemingly jealous person. And quite frankly there seem to be way too many such people populating this site and the internet in general.
Dan Druff I think you bear some responsibility for this site. A couple weeks ago when BoSox joined you posted a welcome that said something to the effect that he didn't have to worry about getting banned here. It was an anything goes site. I didn't have any concerns about Bosox, but I knew at the time, that would be interpreted as a green light to ramp up the hate and attacks by several members here. AND IT WAS. That was just about the time Moses seemed to really go off the deep end.
You have made it clear that is the kind of forum you want....some kind of fight club. That is NOT the kind of forum I want to contribute to. This is no longer fun or entertaining to me, and I will not put myself or my career in danger any longer, hoping you come to your senses.
If I return to posting somewhere, it will be a more moderated site. Maybe WoV, some day. Despite that I feel like WoV is over-moderated to the point of silliness with their suspensions and stuff, at least they would have never allowed this kind of situation to occur. As a matter of fact there was a guy, sidthesquid trolling for information on me at WoV long after I was gone and they still did the right thing and immediately kicked him away. (perhaps sid and moses are the same).
Anyway, thanks for the support from my friends, AP's and other reasonable members here and good luck with the haters/trolls that are allowed to dominate here and keep this site what it is.
Last edited by kewlJ; 02-24-2019 at 02:20 AM.
If you aren't being stupid you are a complete contradiction.
You crush Vegas for over a million dollars playing Black Jack on a daily basis.
You play unrated. You are a complete ghost to other Players and the Casino.
Pretty amazing and genius behavior.
However, you come online and post all sorts of personal information constantly across many websites.
Even your pal, Maxpen, told you to STFU when you were giving detailed information about the sale of your house and purchase of your new property.
Off of the top of my head this is the information you have shared:
Your Gay
You play at the El Cortel during busy hours basically with a hit and run style once the count has been exposed.
You play at Arizona Charlies Decatur and eat at Ron's.
These are two easy Casinos to play at and find you if one wanted to.
You have posted about your brother.
You have posted how you employ your mother.
You are the genius black jack player who has given anyone a road map to find you in Vegas.
You have already been robbed because of posting on gambling forums so you have a history of talking too much.
You create sock puppets and lie about it.
You fake your own death online.
You constantly bash and or talk bad about people online.
When it all backfires on you, you run to the internet police to bail you out of the situation you created.
When they tell you to stop posting online you think they are stupid.
Now you come in here with some detailed message saying good bye.
That isn't good enough you have to throw all the blame on the owner and other members because it isn't your fault what has happened to you.
No reason to go on because it is obvious you are just as nuts as what Maxpen has claimed against Moses.
Front Loops on your Front Porch??
I don't get the joke.
Is that a typo?
Even if it said Fruit Loops it still isn't funny.
Although Fruit Loops and kewlJ makes more sense.
Last edited by monet; 02-24-2019 at 04:09 AM.
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